Hollar Hunter
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Now that its been out for a while I was hoping to get some reviews from some fellow Tn hunters. Pros and cons? How has it performed for you? T/C vs smokeless?
brownfishunter said:Talking to a gun dealer today he said some costomers have bought them and love them others have bought them and cant get them to group. I would rather have a stainless laminate, but the only new ones he could find were black sinthetic stock blue barell or basically same gun only camo and $50 higher. You think the sinthetic stock be ok?
Couple of reasons, probably the biggest is they didn't pay Michael Waddell a butload of money to hype one on TV. Second is most folks are happy with a $150 CVA you can drop in 2 pellets and hit a pie plate at 50 yards, then they don't clean it anyway because it's headed to the pawnshop as soon as season is over. Why would they buy a Savage?smfoley said:If the Savage smokeless muzzleloaders are so good why has Savage discontinued production?
That is a good question. My challenge to anyone that discounts how good they are is to find someone that has one and shoot it and clean it. My money says all doubt will be quickly removed from the naysayer.smfoley said:If the Savage smokeless muzzleloaders are so good why has Savage discontinued production?
smfoley said:If the Savage smokeless muzzleloaders are so good why has Savage discontinued production?
Howa said:Couple of reasons, probably the biggest is they didn't pay Michael Waddell a butload of money to hype one on TV. Second is most folks are happy with a $150 CVA you can drop in 2 pellets and hit a pie plate at 50 yards, then they don't clean it anyway because it's headed to the pawnshop as soon as season is over. Why would they buy a Savage?smfoley said:If the Savage smokeless muzzleloaders are so good why has Savage discontinued production?
HatchieLuvr said:I agree, if anyone had problems getting them to group it's because they don't realize they are dealing with a piece of equipment that has the potential for 30/06 velocities. Especially if you are shooting the hotter powders in 90+ degree temperatures. Obviously you gotta select premium sabots, bullets, powders and see "what if".
This aint your daddies ol pos CVA!
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vonb said:smfoley said:If the Savage smokeless muzzleloaders are so good why has Savage discontinued production?
1) Most people are going to spend $500+ on a muzzleloader for a few extra days of hunting.
2) These muzzleloaders are a little on the heavy side compared to less expensive models shooting pyrodex/777/bh209.
3) Savage in my opinion never properly marketed them which I think it due to all the liability sues from Bubbas trying smokeless in their non-Savage rigs.
4) The market went to a break-open style action over bolt due to easier access to breech plugs. Being a bolt design makes them longer.
With that said, once you use one, you'll be sold. No cleaning every night it's shot and it's cheaper to shoot and with better velocity than someone shooting bh209. It's simply a better design.
smfoley said:If the Savage smokeless muzzleloaders are so good why has Savage discontinued production?