Sure would make hunting a lot more enjoyable not having to watch over my shoulder the whole time for the khaki bandit to come tax me again
Baiting Bill HB1618/SB1942
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Just watched a segment on RED RISING can't remember the hunter's name but he said if you specifically plant food for the deer then in his opinion baiting is no different. My thoughts as well as long as you do it to were it don't effect the wildlife physically . Some don't have the means to put a food plot so baiting would even the playing field . Can't understand the logic behind the negatively as just about all states bordering Tennessee allows baiting and to my knowledge it hasn't effected their wildlife physically.
Wrangler95
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I would not be for it!
Flintlocksforme
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Always wondered why every state around us could? I guess they think they have CWD contained to the western end of the state. I see this increasing the need to buy a suppressor and thermal scope to get a crack at the biggest ones at your bait pile. Oh well nothing stays the same I suppose.
Hymie3
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Planting plots is a whole lot different than Corning in my opinion. Natural plants don't give deer and turkeys diseases (especially from aflatoxins from moldy corn). And there is no guarantee that deer will eat your crops you planted. There is a very high chance they will come to the corn. Hunting over bait is lazy and requires no skills. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone and most of y'all prob kill way more deer than me, but to have the skill set to find deer naturally is the way to go for the hunter and the wildlife. This topic comes up at least once a year since I have been on this site. I will say the same thing, It was not that long ago that only "criminals" hunted over bait. Are we lowering the bar?
I will be hunting for the first time in TN this year as I just bought 15 acres in Stewart County. I set up a feeder to keep deer on the property.
I really don't care one way or the other because once acorns start to drop they don't eat the corn much.
My only heartburn is the 10 day rule. Being out of state I'd have to make a special trip to empty the feeder which is hard.
We should be allowed to keep feeders somewhere just not hunt over them. In Georgia, when you couldn't bait, you could still have a feeder as long as it wasn't in plain site of your stand or blind.
MickThompson
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How does bait even the playing field?
And since when is it the government's job to regulate fairness?
Pro baiting arguments are borderline socialist. Prove me wrong.
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aflatoxins and it's negative effective on turkeys is a fact and the already decline in population is also a fact. So until they require aflatoxin levels to be tested in wildlife corn I say no. But I also hate when the government puts restrictions on what I can do on my one land. Less government is better government in my opinion but one also has to think of the sustainability of wildlife so there of course has to be laws to keep healthy population of animals. But if that was in the hands of the general public well we would be screwed because people are stupid
CrossVolle
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A pile of processed corn and a food plot with a grab bag of varieties and nutrients are not the same. One is actually good for the deer and the other is terrible for the deer.
Wildcat#32
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i would suggest to ask the surrounding states when they were planning on shutting down there hunting seasons because of bait, alflotoxins or cwd !!!! If it is all that bad????
Exactly . Kentucky for one . And you can buy antialflotoxin corn if your concerned about killing your turkeys or deer . No baiting in the western part of the state and CWD is supposedly wiping out our deer herds . Personally I don't bait but do supplement feeding to get them coming to a certain area before deer season starts and acorns start falling .
I'm not for it, it's cheating pure and simple but if the agriculture/corn lobby wants it it'll pass regardless of what we think. It not about the right or wrong of it, it's money that decides.
You calling me a Socialist ?? Why brother those are fighting words . By evening the playing field you are saying luscious food plots don't attract deer , right ? I voted my opinion right or wrong it's my opinion . Like I said I don't bait during the season but do supplemental feeding but use the right ingredients that are safe now that I know . DA hunted my place he knows .
Setting in a shooting house over a food plot teaches young hunters what ???
MickThompson
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I'm saying that "leveling the playing field" is a fallacy and one not worthy of pursuing. The pro baiting arguments feed into this "oppressed vs privileged" dynamic in our society today. I'd just as well keep that out of my hunting. It may be an unpopular opinion but it's mine.
If my neighbor has more equipment, more and/or better land, and more time to manage theirs, any amount of bait doesn't negate that. If anything, they'll keep doing what they're doing and still be able to put down more bait than I can afford, furthering the gap between me and "them" and I resent them more because of it.
And even if it did "level the playing field" why should that be a concern of the TWRA? Shouldn't they concern themselves with equal opportunity instead of the perception of equal outcomes?
MickThompson
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I'm not talking about hunting skills I'm talking about the perceptions that the muddy middle 90% that doesn't hold a strong opinion on hunting or understand what we do or why we do it.
What does a bait pile teach? This isn't a debate over the merits of food plots.
Planting food plots is something I've done with my kids and it's helped teach them in growing their own gardens. It's hard work, takes time, and it's success depends on weather . It's farming, but for wildlife. Comparing planting beneficial food for deer and turkeys year round to pouring out a bag of corn to shoot them over is no comparison at all.
And what I was talking about those that don't have the means you do , which is ok I never denied that and the work it requires to put out a foodplot . And only if it's deemed legal to bait would I condone it . Lots of people do it on these surrounding states and I haven't heard any negative things about those...not that there aren't any. Most of you that put the time in on making the plots have even stated its not an advantage so .....why do it ????? Of course it's can advantage ! Bet there's not a food plot that's made that hadn't got a stand watching it !! So its NOT just for the deer its also to hopefully kill one off it .Not much said about those who feed the deer to supplement feeding when there is not much food available which some do and make sure the feed is gone before season. It's just different if someone is hunting over it , that's the beef right ?
That you have an advantage is all it teaches . Real hunting isn't taught much anymore .
For me personally, i mainly plant them for late season food sources because my place runs thin of food by January. They use them sparingly during season but by this time if the year they are hammering them. I had 15-20 in one plot this afternoon. I didn't check the other plot.
