Suppressed AR, night vision, road shooting deer , all a normal Summer and Fall night in my county honestly.
How does a depredation tag bypass ALL TWRA Regulation and state laws?
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Atchman2
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Since I have had a Depredation permit, it only works for one property. The thing is, from what I understand, it was for any legal means of taking. You could even bait and shoot over bait as the idea was to reduce the population. I know this because the two other hunters that hunted there were TWRA agents! They lived really close to the property and we were all just helping the landowner. I think they killed two deer with a crossbow and I killed four during muzzleloader season. (I honestly think you could have shot at night, but I felt that wasn't a good idea in the middle of a subdivision). Now to be fair that was 13 years ago and things may have changed.
Those few were enough and the population seems to be under control. The big thing that happened was one of the neighbors used to feed the deer which drew them into that small area. Well that mean the area was overgrazed and they started eating flower beds and gardens. Plus they were a true road hazard as you couldn't drive through neighborhood without stopping. The neighbor has moved out and the deer have reverted to more natural patterns.
The thing is the permit ended at the end of the legal hunting season. There was really no reason to keep it going since the number of deer incidents went down to pretty much a normal level.
Those few were enough and the population seems to be under control. The big thing that happened was one of the neighbors used to feed the deer which drew them into that small area. Well that mean the area was overgrazed and they started eating flower beds and gardens. Plus they were a true road hazard as you couldn't drive through neighborhood without stopping. The neighbor has moved out and the deer have reverted to more natural patterns.
The thing is the permit ended at the end of the legal hunting season. There was really no reason to keep it going since the number of deer incidents went down to pretty much a normal level.
You need to get him on camera. A picture is worth 1000 words . Hard evidence will motivate someone.
Atchman2
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I've never really understood it? Is it for food? Do they take the deer carcass? Or do they do it for sport? Are they looking for antlers? Are they trying to access land they have no permission to hunt?
I couldn't think of a riskier thing to do hunting. The chance of hitting someone or their property. The chance of losing a rifle and a really expensive night vision or thermal sight. The risk of a minimum of $400 losing your suppressor. Not to mention your vehicle!
I've been hog hunting and seen lots of deer, but it never even tempted me to shoot a deer at night.
PollackInWTN
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We get a weekend in vow season for a "velvet hunt " here. Some how this "thing was killing multiple deer from the roadway after dark between velvet and regular bow season. No limit , no respect for property lines . . .just wrong as far as I and several of my local hunters can see it.
PollackInWTN
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No , gut shot and left to rot.
PollackInWTN
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Yes Sir
PollackInWTN
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Multiple messages , from Multiple people.
I don't get too emotional about much these days, but IMO, depredation permit or road hunting, anyone who gut shoots deer on purpose needs to be publicly flogged until unconsciousness.
PollackInWTN
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Not cool brother
PollackInWTN
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Preach ! This is why I have reached out . My county and region may not care, But I do ! There are several Ethical hunters that I am friends with that feel the same way!!!
PollackInWTN
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Recently that has even gotten a pass with a plate number!
PollackInWTN
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The WCSD was called and pulled him over armed . . . . And let it go!
Probably 20 years ago or so, we had a depredation permit for our farm in Nebraska - so keep in mind I'm sure TN is different. Deer had destroyed 40 acres of corn; the permit was only good for that particular section of the farm. Could use any legal weapon, and the permit was for up to 30; we got 15. Don't remember what other rules applied, but I'm sure we had to follow all other laws - a depredation permit doesn't trump other state/federal law.
kentuckylakebuck1
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these tn permits are an open permit to kill on whatever particular property is stated on the permit, unlimited, day or night and the only stipulations are no shooting off public rd. and remove any animals that can be seen from a public rd. this tells you the twra is trying to hide it from the public! anyone that doesnt believe me, ill be glad to share s few permits for your viewing pleasure. purely sickening!
I'm no expert in this matter, but I was always under the impression when you shot the deer you had to leave it where it lay. You couldn't claim the deer or get the meat.
When i bought my farm, the crop rights were leased to a man i have known my whole life. When we were riding around the farm with previous owner i noticed deer skull and bones everywhere around the crop fields. Ask the owner and he told
Me the farmer had a depredation permit and came in during the summer and killed hundreds on mine snd surrounding property that he has crops on. I bought the farm but made it clear that he couldnt shoot them on my piece. He lowered the land lease by 800.00 lol. But it was still worth it to me . Our deer population is truly ridiculous so killing does wouldnt be a bad thing, but i saw several skulls that were obviously young bucks that had been killed in velvet. He retired and a new farmer took over all his tracts. He gave me the original price- but often complains about having to replant beans due to deer damage.
Me the farmer had a depredation permit and came in during the summer and killed hundreds on mine snd surrounding property that he has crops on. I bought the farm but made it clear that he couldnt shoot them on my piece. He lowered the land lease by 800.00 lol. But it was still worth it to me . Our deer population is truly ridiculous so killing does wouldnt be a bad thing, but i saw several skulls that were obviously young bucks that had been killed in velvet. He retired and a new farmer took over all his tracts. He gave me the original price- but often complains about having to replant beans due to deer damage.
MickThompson
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Night vision still casts invisible, but artificial, light. Thermals not so much.
Big Chief200
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I doubt State Farm, and FarmBureau are paying people to poach deer.
PollackInWTN
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It is not poaching if the state has sanctioned it. Or so it appears
