Customized Rifle

[Hunter 257W]

What exactly can you "Time" on a bolt action rifle? Is this talking about aligning the slot in the bottom of the bolt so that the striker doesn't drag on the sides when it fires? I usually associate Timing with car ignitions but know that it is also applicable to aligning a revolver cylinder to the barrel. Don't see how it can apply to a bolt action though unless we are talking the feature I described above.

 

[jlanecr500]

Tactical brakes must be timed.

Fluted barrels must be timed.

Barrels with iron sights must be timed.

 

[mr.big]

What exactly can you "Time" on a bolt action rifle? Is this talking about aligning the slot in the bottom of the bolt so that the striker doesn't drag on the sides when it fires? I usually associate Timing with car ignitions but know that it is also applicable to aligning a revolver cylinder to the barrel. Don't see how it can apply to a bolt action though unless we are talking the feature I described above.

go grab one of your bolt actions,,,make sure it isnt loaded,,pull the trigger to drop the firing pin,,when you chocolate chip cookie it if it is timed exactly right the trigger will pick up the firing pin before the bolt hits the extraction cam ,,then when you open the bolt and push it back forward the trigger should catch the firing pin just as you start to close the bolt,,

if all that isnt timed exactly right when you start to close the bolt you will have what they call " chocolate chip cookie on close" and you will be compressing the firing pin with the bolt handle when you close the bolt,,you should be able to close the bolt with very little pressure and it shouldnt push the firing pin back any further.

none of that will effect anything on a hunting rifle but it makes for a really rough running bench rifle and if its bad enough it will take enough pressure to close the bolt that it will twist the rifle out of the bags,,

it is kinda hard for me to explain but a rifle timed right is really smooth and when running the bolt it will feel like it doesnt have a firing pin spring in it,,

 

[CBU93]

So where we stand thus far...

-action, receiver, and mount being Cerakoted black as we speak
-ordered a 24", stainless Shilen Heavy Sporter in .30-06, 1-10 twist to deliver in a few days...12-16 week lead on the Criterion, Shilen was available off the shelf
-bead blast the barrel with the smith after it arrives
-Still leaning toward a B&C stock in light gray with black spider webbing

Will look into topping it with a nice scope in a month or two. Trigger upgrade will occur sometime this summer. Will swap bolt handle at some point too.

This has been a downright stressful process, but enjoying it. :super: :super: :super:

 

[markwondi]

Shilen makes a good barrel, you should have a good shooter when it's done.

What bullet you plan to shoot in it?

 

[CBU93]

Shilen makes a good barrel, you should have a good shooter when it's done.

What bullet you plan to shoot in it?

Not sure yet, figured I would let it tell me. I don't hand load, so I am looking for premium factory loads in the 150 to 165 gr arena. Open to suggestions.

 

[TiminTN]

Federal Fusion won`t break the bank, and is bonded bullet. They seem to shoot above the price tag.

 

[CBU93]

Here she is

 

[mr.big]

I am sure your Dad would be excited to shoot that,,

 

[CBU93]

He sure would! And I'd be excited to shoot one more time with him.

 

[DaveB]

Yep, nice looker and a great caliber.

Best explanation of timing a bolt rifle I ever heard or read.

 

[DaveB]

CBU--in my limited experience with Savage chambers I have found them all to be tight tight tight. If you need anything to build a custom round let me know, I am right up the street.

 

[CBU93]

Thanks Dave!

I am excited and looking forward to shooting her soon!

 

[lapuafan]

So I'm sitting here in the garage as an insurance adjuster write up an estimate on my roof. The thought hit me that I have a savage model 110 in .30-06 that I would like to get back into hunting condition. I would like for someone Like Tim in Tennessee to walk me through the process I would need to do to somewhat customize this rifle .

I'm thinking new stock, re-barrel, aftermarket trigger, new mounts and rings, scopes, etc. I don't want to rechamber. I just want to Totally refresh of the basic rifle. What would be involved ?

It was my dad's rifle that he bought as a savage package back in early 90s. I've got nothing but time and a little bit of play money to use. Not necessarily in a hurry .

For what you are going to spend, I'm pretty sure you can buy one off shelf ready to go. You talking stock, barrel, trigger, cerakote, not to count shop time. Think I would look at some of these guns already out there. Christensen arms ridgeline, for the money out of the box you cannot go wrong with savage long range hunter.

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[lapuafan]

It's impossible to answer if you don't supply any information what you desire from the outcome.

What accuracy level? Light weight, mid weight, etc.? Factory stock ok or do you want an aftermarket? Closed or open grip?

You could go a million directions. First decide what you want or like and then a process suggestion could be made.

Well pretty sure he not wanting spend 5to 7 grand . He's wanting something semi custom for hunting.

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[lapuafan]

Thats not too tall an order, Bugholes, or Southern Precision sells barrels, made to fit under the nut on a Savage, if its a 110 it needs the 1.055" diameter or if a large 112 it takes the 1.118". Chamber selection is a topic as a reamer is needed for that. Triggers are made for the earlier action like was your Dads, that have the flat style rear bridge and accutriggers won`t fit, but thats a good thing. Many aftermarket options out there.

Is bughole, southern precision not the same ?

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[lapuafan]

I've got a set of dnz mounts I'd make a fair deal on. Were on my rifle about 10 minutes.


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That's what they are designed for paper weights !!

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[lapuafan]

blake

you wont like my answer .... get a rem 700 action

seriously

1. do what ever tim says

2. id get a good barrel good trigger great glass good stock and let it eat

3. id turn it in to a 280 AI but thats back to what i like

Why a 280 ai ? With all other calibers out their that out perform it. Why not just go 7 mag ?

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[lapuafan]

I had forgotten about Criterion barrels. They offer pre-threaded and chambered barrels for Savage. They shoot very well too! Once owned by Krieger.

http://criterionbarrels.com/savage-remage-prefit

So does proof, christensen, and I think bartlien

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[lapuafan]

I have used some of the big named barrel companies but for 200$ you can get an er Shaw barrel, barrel nut wrench, go and no go gauges. I built a 7mm08 once off a savage action and it was a track driver.

I even have an action wrench id ship you to use it you promise to ship it back when you get done.

Midway has the er Shaw barrel kits. They're around $200 I'm pretty sure.

There are tons of savage rebarreling videos on YouTube. It's literally a 10 minute job if you have to above mentioned tools and a vice.

If you need my action wrench let me know.

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Red hawk rifle has some proof barrel kits with stock, bottom metal worth money.

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[lapuafan]

Just built 6.5 prc in it.

I have used some of the big named barrel companies but for 200$ you can get an er Shaw barrel, barrel nut wrench, go and no go gauges. I built a 7mm08 once off a savage action and it was a track driver.

I even have an action wrench id ship you to use it you promise to ship it back when you get done.

Midway has the er Shaw barrel kits. They're around $200 I'm pretty sure.

There are tons of savage rebarreling videos on YouTube. It's literally a 10 minute job if you have to above mentioned tools and a vice.

If you need my action wrench let me know.

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[lapuafan]

I own both stocks, can't tell nickel diffrence.

Since this is my first and likely last foray into this, I am leaning toward a shaw barrel, chrome Molly matte finished factory barrel, fluted, and have them install on the action. Then dropping it in a bell and Carlson stock,black with gray spider webbing or gray with black spider webbing. Trigger upgrade and optics in due course...

Feedback?

McMillan has a sale right now for 25% off (Promo code Santa), or you can get a greyboe stock. Little bit better than bell and Carlson stocks...

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[mr.big]

So I'm sitting here in the garage as an insurance adjuster write up an estimate on my roof. The thought hit me that I have a savage model 110 in .30-06 that I would like to get back into hunting condition. I would like for someone Like Tim in Tennessee to walk me through the process I would need to do to somewhat customize this rifle .

I'm thinking new stock, re-barrel, aftermarket trigger, new mounts and rings, scopes, etc. I don't want to rechamber. I just want to Totally refresh of the basic rifle. What would be involved ?

It was my dad's rifle that he bought as a savage package back in early 90s. I've got nothing but time and a little bit of play money to use. Not necessarily in a hurry .

For what you are going to spend, I'm pretty sure you can buy one off shelf ready to go. You talking stock, barrel, trigger, cerakote, not to count shop time. Think I would look at some of these guns already out there. Christensen arms ridgeline, for the money out of the box you cannot go wrong with savage long range hunter.

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one off the shelf wouldnt be his Dads old rifle and defeat the purpose of what he is wanting to do,,when it comes to old hand me down rifles money is no object,

 

[knightrider]

So I'm sitting here in the garage as an insurance adjuster write up an estimate on my roof. The thought hit me that I have a savage model 110 in .30-06 that I would like to get back into hunting condition. I would like for someone Like Tim in Tennessee to walk me through the process I would need to do to somewhat customize this rifle .

I'm thinking new stock, re-barrel, aftermarket trigger, new mounts and rings, scopes, etc. I don't want to rechamber. I just want to Totally refresh of the basic rifle. What would be involved ?

It was my dad's rifle that he bought as a savage package back in early 90s. I've got nothing but time and a little bit of play money to use. Not necessarily in a hurry .

For what you are going to spend, I'm pretty sure you can buy one off shelf ready to go. You talking stock, barrel, trigger, cerakote, not to count shop time. Think I would look at some of these guns already out there. Christensen arms ridgeline, for the money out of the box you cannot go wrong with savage long range hunter.

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one off the shelf wouldnt be his Dads old rifle and defeat the purpose of what he is wanting to do,,when it comes to old hand me down rifles money is no object,

true but then its no longer dads old rifle, no way id mess up one of dads old guns

 

[RUGER]

Looks great man!

 

[Jon54]

Are you a member at Memphis Sports Shooting Assn? I bet some of the LR shooters there could help.