Customized Rifle

[CBU93]

So I'm sitting here in the garage as an insurance adjuster write up an estimate on my roof. The thought hit me that I have a savage model 110 in .30-06 that I would like to get back into hunting condition. I would like for someone Like Tim in Tennessee to walk me through the process I would need to do to somewhat customize this rifle .

I'm thinking new stock, re-barrel, aftermarket trigger, new mounts and rings, scopes, etc. I don't want to rechamber. I just want to Totally refresh of the basic rifle. What would be involved ?

It was my dad's rifle that he bought as a savage package back in early 90s. I've got nothing but time and a little bit of play money to use. Not necessarily in a hurry .

 

[Jon54]

I'd call Kent at Southern Cerakote near Henderson. He's very knowledgeable and does a lot of LR shooting.

 

[CBU93]

Tim? Eric? Lads? Where y'all at?

 

[markwondi]

It's impossible to answer if you don't supply any information what you desire from the outcome.

What accuracy level? Light weight, mid weight, etc.? Factory stock ok or do you want an aftermarket? Closed or open grip?

You could go a million directions. First decide what you want or like and then a process suggestion could be made.

 

[TiminTN]

Thats not too tall an order, Bugholes, or Southern Precision sells barrels, made to fit under the nut on a Savage, if its a 110 it needs the 1.055" diameter or if a large 112 it takes the 1.118". Chamber selection is a topic as a reamer is needed for that. Triggers are made for the earlier action like was your Dads, that have the flat style rear bridge and accutriggers won`t fit, but thats a good thing. Many aftermarket options out there.

 

[lungpuncher1]

Call this guy. He's great to deal with

http://northlandshooterssupply.com/matc ... on-remage/

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[dbierman]

If it was your dads just clean it up and leave it as is. You make all those changes and you've taken away the "dads rifle" uniqueness.

 

[Coldfusion]

If it was your dads just clean it up and leave it as is. You make all those changes and you've taken away the "dads rifle" uniqueness.

I agree with this personally. I like sentimental guns as is. You can also make some small changes that improve the gun without changing it much such as replacing the trigger spring to improve the trigger without actually replacing it. I can see changing the mounts and scope if it doesn't meet your needs. Most people now adays are liking DNZ mounts. If you have the money seekin precision is nice too. Scope wise I like vortex for the money. If you have play money swarovski and zeiss are top of the line. But one thing I always have to reel myself in on is the "why" factor. Unless your talking long range, most hunting rifles are fine. I hate to break it to people with high dollar rigs but most $200 rifle rigs kill deer just as good as $2000 rigs in the under 200 yard range. Like mentioned above decide what you want your rifle to do. I had an old hunter tell me not long ago to buy a $200 rifle then put a $400 Scope on top. Expensive doesn't always mean better. Companies will always market themselves to make more money.

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[CBU93]

This may or may not make sense, so bear with me.

I know the history of the rifle and the characteristics of my dad. This is not in anyway a sentimental gun. My dad, in his younger years, was every bit the shooter and rifleman as many on here. He would in fact be more excited about the possibilities of what could be done than stuck on sentiment.

Now, if We were talking about the Marlin 39A Gold Trigger, then no way there would be any possibility of changing anything.

As for the .30-06, I am looking for a mid-weight small field/woods gun. Capable of 300 yard shots but not the primary requirement. Hope that clarifies a little bit.

 

[Jcalder]

I've got a set of dnz mounts I'd make a fair deal on. Were on my rifle about 10 minutes.


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[Deer Assassin]

blake

you wont like my answer .... get a rem 700 action

seriously

1. do what ever tim says

2. id get a good barrel good trigger great glass good stock and let it eat

3. id turn it in to a 280 AI but thats back to what i like

 

[TiminTN]

I had forgotten about Criterion barrels. They offer pre-threaded and chambered barrels for Savage. They shoot very well too! Once owned by Krieger.

http://criterionbarrels.com/savage-remage-prefit

 

[JimFromTN]

I bought a pre-fit barrel from McGowen and sent the barrel and rifle to Sharp Shooter Supply and they installed it for $50.

 

[RUGER]

I would just hand the rifle off to timntn, tell him my budget and tell him to have fun.

 

[jlanecr500]

I had forgotten about Criterion barrels. They offer pre-threaded and chambered barrels for Savage. They shoot very well too! Once owned by Krieger.

http://criterionbarrels.com/savage-remage-prefit

I have a few Criterion barrels on my Savages. They all are shooters. For a hunting rifle, I advise using the heavy sportier contour. The light varmint is a little heavier. Be sure to buy a precision recoil lug and barrel nut from them too.
Criterion is the button rifled side of Krieger that has since split off.

I typically build my sml's on Krieger, Brux cut rifled barrels but as of late Rock Creek barrels have stolen my #1 on the list. They are the straightest, most concentric barrels ive ever seen.

A slightly cheaper barrel , that I have had very good luck with is EABCO Savage accuracy barrels. They ate chromoly and have a high quality epoxy coating on them.
A Timney trigger set to 2 pounds is a great hunting trigger.

You can spend a little or a lot on a stock.

 

[CBU93]

As i have read and researched more on the issue, it looks like the tools needed to do the job of a re-barrel may get into a little bit. To be honest, I kinda liked the idea of Ruger had, but don't want to ask too much of TiminTN...(i know he would enjoy the "minor" project though).

Thanks for the input guys...keep it coming as long as you like.

 

[lungpuncher1]

I have used some of the big named barrel companies but for 200$ you can get an er Shaw barrel, barrel nut wrench, go and no go gauges. I built a 7mm08 once off a savage action and it was a track driver.

I even have an action wrench id ship you to use it you promise to ship it back when you get done.

Midway has the er Shaw barrel kits. They're around $200 I'm pretty sure.

There are tons of savage rebarreling videos on YouTube. It's literally a 10 minute job if you have to above mentioned tools and a vice.

If you need my action wrench let me know.

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[CBU93]

I have used some of the big named barrel companies but for 200$ you can get an er Shaw barrel, barrel nut wrench, go and no go gauges. I built a 7mm08 once off a savage action and it was a track driver.

I even have an action wrench id ship you to use it you promise to ship it back when you get done.

Midway has the er Shaw barrel kits. They're around $200 I'm pretty sure.

There are tons of savage rebarreling videos on YouTube. It's literally a 10 minute job if you have to above mentioned tools and a vice.

If you need my action wrench let me know.

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That is a great offer LP...Thank you! Still thinking it out.

 

[280longshot]

http://www.westernshooter.com/2009/12/h ... rifle.html

 

[CBU93]

Since this is my first and likely last foray into this, I am leaning toward a shaw barrel, chrome Molly matte finished factory barrel, fluted, and have them install on the action. Then dropping it in a bell and Carlson stock,black with gray spider webbing or gray with black spider webbing. Trigger upgrade and optics in due course...

Feedback?

 

[lungpuncher1]

Since this is my first and likely last foray into this, I am leaning toward a shaw barrel, chrome Molly matte finished factory barrel, fluted, and have them install on the action. Then dropping it in a bell and Carlson stock,black with gray spider webbing or gray with black spider webbing. Trigger upgrade and optics in due course...

Feedback?

McMillan has a sale right now for 25% off (Promo code Santa), or you can get a greyboe stock. Little bit better than bell and Carlson stocks...

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[280longshot]

Since this is my first and likely last foray into this, I am leaning toward a shaw barrel, chrome Molly matte finished factory barrel, fluted, and have them install on the action. Then dropping it in a bell and Carlson stock,black with gray spider webbing or gray with black spider webbing. Trigger upgrade and optics in due course...

Feedback?

If I was going to upgrade the barrel, stock and trigger I would opt for a better barrel like criterion, if cost isn't a concern.

 

[CBU93]

So educate me here...what is the knock with Shaw barrels vs the criterion? What makes one stand out more than the other from a quality perspective?

 

[lungpuncher1]

I can't answer that fully but i can say criterion does seem to clean better and are easier to find loads for from my experience. Plus they're only about 100$ more.

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[jlanecr500]

I can't answer that fully but i can say criterion does seem to clean better and are easier to find loads for from my experience. Plus they're only about 100$ more.


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I have a stainless ershaw barrel that shoots pretty well but for less than $100 more I can have a Criterion match grade barrel that has been hand lapped, doesn't foul as easily, cleans up easier, and I can pick my barrel contour and length.

I don't use the headspace gauges as they end up setting headspace loose so I don't miss getting them with the ershaw.

It really is worth it to get a Criterion

 

[CBU93]

Truing and timing an action...worth it or not on a hunting rig?

 

[mr.big]

just whatever you do ,,DO NOT send it to Sharp Shooter Supply ,,there are plenty of pre fit bbl makers for the Savage actions and all you need is head space gauges for the caliber you choose and a barrel vise,,I would give you my Savage action wrench to keep you from sending it to SSS where you might get it back and you might not,,

just google their customer service complaints,,

 

[mr.big]

Truing and timing an action...worth it or not on a hunting rig?

maybe get a PTG bolt head but I would not worry about truing a Savage action with the floating bolt head for a hunting rifle,,

Criterion,McGowen and X-Caliber all make good prefit bbls for the Savage actions,,a guy that shoot with us some has a couple Criterions that shoot really well,,ones a 308 and another a 6BR.

 

[280longshot]

Truing and timing an action...worth it or not on a hunting rig?

No

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[infoman jr.]

Truing and timing an action...worth it or not on a hunting rig?

Na.