I have used them on the caney and caught a bunch. Me and a buddy did it one time and had over 80 between the two of us. All caught and released. Brown trout were killing them. What we did was take one of those buckets you put in the water and we just let it drift with us when we moved. We also took a couple out and put them in our pockets. It did not matter that they were dead when we put them on the hook, in fact we ran the hook through the mouth, down through the stomach, and out the tail. Used a small split shot and cast into the holes. Then just waited till they hit it. Had a blast. Got heckled for using minnows by his dad, but we didn't care much. Most of the browns were 13-16" and a few rainbows in the same range. Good day needless to say.