Thats me. i got very bitter with it after losing a nice deer. but have come to love it again. i lived to bowhunt as a teen. in fact i carry a bow now 90 percent of the time
Straight wall cartridges for muzzleloader?
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BSK
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I would NOT be fine with anything that does not load from the muzzle during muzzleloader season.
Yeah. Id say it would become primitive rifle season
Until you can shoot smokeless powder in that rifle, it is not an ultimate muzzleloader.
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Powder, scales, primers, aren't require for straight walled cases?
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People who are too lazy to deal with "trinkets" are surely too lazy to reload.
I was just hoping I didn't miss something. Other than the cases.
Shotguns aren't legal in IL during the ML season unless it is a very recent change.
Muzzleloaders ARE legal during their second gun hunt.
1984dog
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Illinois does have a dedicated 3 day muzzleloader only gun season. They have 2 gun seasons in which you can use a ML if you like. Illinois just started to allow straight wall rifle cartridges during the gun season (well defined) where they used to only allow shotguns using slugs (no buckshot). You can not use a high powered rifle such as a 33-30, 30-06, 270, 6.5 CM, 243 and etc in Illinois. I think Iowa has the same type of rules.
I clicked on "Not sure" because a vote on this poll is required to see the results.
1984dog
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I'm from Mississippi. 40 years ago, Mississippi had a ML season that typically ran from Dec 2 - Dec 15th. Where I hunted, it was peak rut and I basically had the woods to myself and had an absolute blast. Back then, you could only use powder (no pellets) and scopes were not allowed. ML hunting had basically a 75 yd range and sometimes your gun did not fire (or had a delayed fire) - it was fun and challenging.
Mississippi then changed regulations to allow straight wall cartridges and scopes during primitive weapon season and now they allow weapon of choice on private land. I did not like the change - but my brother reminded me that no one is stopping you from hunting with your old TC Renegade.
Today, ML technology has changes so much that there is not much difference between ML and using a straight wall (444, 45-70 etc. with a scope). I have a Traditions Nitrofire and scope, but it is basically a mechanism to improve odds of drawing a tag in Illinois, Kansas and Iowa. My TC Renegade and 444 Marlin have become safe queens.
Mississippi then changed regulations to allow straight wall cartridges and scopes during primitive weapon season and now they allow weapon of choice on private land. I did not like the change - but my brother reminded me that no one is stopping you from hunting with your old TC Renegade.
Today, ML technology has changes so much that there is not much difference between ML and using a straight wall (444, 45-70 etc. with a scope). I have a Traditions Nitrofire and scope, but it is basically a mechanism to improve odds of drawing a tag in Illinois, Kansas and Iowa. My TC Renegade and 444 Marlin have become safe queens.
FLTENNHUNTER1
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Opinions are like azzholes…
Henry has a sharp little single shot available in straight walled cartridges. At 6.5 pounds, it would be a joy to hunt with
Won't disagree with that. It's a nice rifle. But like the paramount, they shoulda went the extra half mile.
FLTENNHUNTER1
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I'm completely satisfied with it. IMO if a big puff of smoke doesn't come out of it it's not a muzzleloader. For some odd reason I like the smell
When I first started using blackhorn it was something to get used to that you could actually see after the shot lol. I really don't have an issue with the substitutes, but not having to clean after every session is such a game changer.I'm completely satisfied with it. IMO if a big puff of smoke doesn't come out of it it's not a muzzleloader. For some odd reason I like the smell
JeepKuntry
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Combine the price for a ML and gun stamp so no lost revenue. Archery, gun and use what you want. Modern ML's are almost as accurate as rifles.
Wooden Arrow
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if i choose to bowhunt, will i then have to dress like a deranged UT football fan all of the time?
for my own safety, no doubt. isn't there some rule about "making sure of your target" before squeezing off a shot? hmmm...They are for those who reload . I will order some "ready to eat " ammo from
Midway usa lol
Not if you are hunting your own landif i choose to bowhunt, will i then have to dress like a deranged UT football fan all of the time?
