Got two. First dog was given to me. Smart dog. Took her to a training pen I'm Mississippi. Best $ 175 I ever spent. Second dog I raised off a Amish $20 cur fluffy kitten. Had 5 pups, wish I had kept them all. One I kept was a natural, was treeing at 6 months. Best tip I can suggest is the dog has to have drive and a kill desire. Doesn't have these, then a waste of time.