Live scope crappie

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Love it or hate it, the only thing constant is change.
If more people are successful at catching because of this,
then there may need to be changes in creel limits, size limits, etc.

On the other hand, over my lifetime, I've watched things "change" from a time
when most fishermen kept & ate everything they caught,
to a time today when many release most fish back to be caught again.

Does your friend keep or release his tarpon?
You can't eat tarpon ……
 
My son has live scope on his boat and after two trips, we have a total of 3 keepers total. Four more trips and we should be able to have a small fish fry. It's not a slam dunk. Fish stare at your bait and swim off.
But if you're like my FIL, every time I go to east TN in the fall/winter, we are sinking crappie beds. It's nonstop. They're everywhere and he gets mad when someone finds one of his and I'm like…we sunk 70 of them….they're going to find a few 🤣
 
Every time I see people using live scope. All I see them doing is bent over staring at a screen moving the transducer watching fish swim up to the bait that they can also see. I don't to each there own I guess. I'll never own one. I go fishing to relax. I don't always catch fish. But It's not the end of the world. If you can't take a fish finder with down scan and find places where fish should be. Then live scope isn't gonna make you a better fisherman.
 
Before LS most crappie fishermen I know always kept their eyes on some type of sonar screen looking for structure. So what's the difference? If you don't like LS don't use one. If you fish tournaments and want to be competitive you best learn to use one.
 
My son has live scope on his boat and after two trips, we have a total of 3 keepers total. Four more trips and we should be able to have a small fish fry. It's not a slam dunk. Fish stare at your bait and swim off.
It's definitely not plug and play like some people think.
There is definitely a learning curve. My first 5 trips I caught less than 5 keepers total. My 6th trip I caught 12 keepers. People that haven't done it think it's automatic. Regardless of how easy the guys on YouTube make it look, it's not. In Mississippi we fish for suspended fish in open water. The fish are swimming. The boat is moving. The wind always blows. When your transducer is on the trolling motor shaft and you are trying to control the boat while keeping the fish and your bait on the screen, it's not as easy as it looks.
 
Regardless of how easy the guys on YouTube make it look, it's not.
This thread and the discussions about "Livescope" seem akin to
all the discussions about cell cams.

It's easy for any of us to make erroneous assumptions based on our own lack of experience and projection of other erroneous assumptions. So, I'm probably just saying this from a point of ignorance, but it would seem a Livescope is of more advantage to a fisherman than a cell cam is to a hunter.

Never mind I have no particular issue with either. Just haven't used a Livescope.

And just because you find the fish, doesn't make them bite.
 
This thread and the discussions about "Livescope" seem akin to
all the discussions about cell cams.

It's easy for any of us to make erroneous assumptions based on our own lack of experience and projection of other erroneous assumptions. So, I'm probably just saying this from a point of ignorance, but it would seem a Livescope is of more advantage to a fisherman than a cell cam is to a hunter.

Never mind I have no particular issue with either. Just haven't used a Livescope.

And just because you find the fish, doesn't make them bite.
It is absolutely more of an advantage than a cell cam because it is live and you are there. Where as with a cell cam you gotta set your drink down, find a gun, find ammo then go kill it.

Your last sentence is a lot more true than people realize.
For me the biggest asset is I can pull up to a spot and in 15 seconds know whether or not I need to fish there.

It is fun to see them turn and head towards your bait though.
You can literally set the hook before you feel the bite. Sometimes.

Other times it makes you realize how many thousands of fish have looked at your bait and swam away.
 
So from my very limited knowledge and research it seems they are most useful schooling fish like crappie?
Livescope, paired with a thumper, is extremely productive on white bass, hybrids, yellow bass and stripers in the winter.
Drop a spoon down, watch it fall to the depth the fish are holding, jiggle jiggle, watch the fish suck it in, set the hook, reel them in. Like video fishing.
LOVE IT!!
 
It is absolutely more of an advantage than a cell cam because it is live and you are there. Where as with a cell cam you gotta set your drink down, find a gun, find ammo then go kill it.

Your last sentence is a lot more true than people realize.
For me the biggest asset is I can pull up to a spot and in 15 seconds know whether or not I need to fish there.

It is fun to see them turn and head towards your bait though.
You can literally set the hook before you feel the bite. Sometimes.

Other times it makes you realize how many thousands of fish have looked at your bait and swam away.
So many times, when the fish look at your bait then swim away, they are not game fish, but shad.
Sunday, I was fishing with friends, for hybrids/stripers/white bass.
Had lots of fish swimming around and by our small shad baits, but they ignored our baits for an hour or more.
Being curious, and having experienced this before, I threw a castnet. I came up with two gizzard shad, one was 12" and the other 8".
So this answered my question as to why we weren't getting bit, what we were watching were not hybrids or stripers, probably just shad and gar.
Livescope is a beautiful thing, but it's a tool, like a graph. It can show you fish, but it doesn't tell you the species.
 
So many times, when the fish look at your bait then swim away, they are not game fish, but shad.
Sunday, I was fishing with friends, for hybrids/stripers/white bass.
Had lots of fish swimming around and by our small shad baits, but they ignored our baits for an hour or more.
Being curious, and having experienced this before, I threw a castnet. I came up with two gizzard shad, one was 12" and the other 8".
So this answered my question as to why we weren't getting bit, what we were watching were not hybrids or stripers, probably just shad and gar.
Livescope is a beautiful thing, but it's a tool, like a graph. It can show you fish, but it doesn't tell you the species.
If you study the characteristics of your target species enough you can absolutely tell them from other fish
 
Livescope, paired with a thumper, is extremely productive on white bass, hybrids, yellow bass and stripers in the winter.
Drop a spoon down, watch it fall to the depth the fish are holding, jiggle jiggle, watch the fish suck it in, set the hook, reel them in. Like video fishing.
LOVE IT!!

what the heck is a thumper?
 
it looks like their are 4 companies that offer this technology

Garmin
Lowrance
Hummingbird
And some one i hadnt heard of….

Can you install these yourselves?
Is their a monthly charge for service (i know it probably sounds dumb but i know very little)

What is the power source?
 
it looks like their are 4 companies that offer this technology

Garmin
Lowrance
Hummingbird
And some one i hadnt heard of….

Can you install these yourselves?
Is their a monthly charge for service (i know it probably sounds dumb but i know very little)

What is the power source?
Performance fishing electronics,give danny a call.😁
 
it looks like their are 4 companies that offer this technology

Garmin
Lowrance
Hummingbird
And some one i hadnt heard of….

Can you install these yourselves?
Is their a monthly charge for service (i know it probably sounds dumb but i know very little)

What is the power source?
Garmin was the first to come with this technology followed by Lowrance and Humminbird. Most people say that Garmin and Lowrance are the best.

For the Garmin, you need to buy the transducer and black box along with a panoptix (livescope) compatible fish finder. You can install yourself, and a power source is a 12v battery. Many people use small lithium batteries.

There is no monthly fee. . It's basically forward facing sonar that is live. You can see the fish, their movement, and your bait.
 
Garmin was the first to come with this technology followed by Lowrance and Humminbird. Most people say that Garmin and Lowrance are the best.

For the Garmin, you need to buy the transducer and black box along with a panoptix (livescope) compatible fish finder. You can install yourself, and a power source is a 12v battery. Many people use small lithium batteries.

There is no monthly fee. . It's basically forward facing sonar that is live. You can see the fish, their movement, and your bait.
Im about to order a boat. Im sure it wont come standard with livescope. I was thinking about trying to use it as a cash incentive. Im sure it wont work. But it seems that there are many components of a "live scope"system and they all have to be purchased seperately. It very confusing to me. A graph, antenna, transducer etc. i was hoping to find a nice used boat that was already set up with it
 
I was scared to ask.
i think im going to build one. use it to thump up stripers and to lengthen that last 1/8" for a TARP.

gonna call it the TARP thumper(patent pending). insert tail of fish, hit the switch and voila, a TARP.

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But it seems that there are many components of a "live scope"system and they all have to be purchased seperately. It very confusing to me.
If you looked at someone's boat with it installed you wouldn't be confused at all. It's pretty simple. The transducer and graph plug into the black box. The graph and the black box have a power cable that goes to a battery. That's it. Now, how you run the wires, mount the graph, and install the black box and transducer can be different on every boat. Bluball on here works at Performance Fishing Electronics. I'd send him a private message and discuss. He and his boss Danny can do the entire process from start to finish and are great guys to deal with.
 

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