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Why are you singling out crappie fishermen?

Not many serious fishermen that don't have one on their boat regardless of the species they're after.
 
Why are you singling out crappie fishermen?

Not many serious fishermen that don't have one on their boat regardless of the species they're after.
Ain't gonna lie yesterday was tough. I finally found some bream and had to harass the crap out of them to make them bite.
Without livescope we would have had 4 keepers.
Ended up with 18.
Worked for every one of them.

If you ain't scopin you just hopin.

😂
 
I kinda think livescope is akin to hunting deer with a remote controlled, video and gun equipped helicopter. But despite my personal distaste for live scopes, I might be inclined to use one of those helicopters if it was legal. Just waiting for livescopes to be banned for taking the sport out of fishing.
 
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not worse really than si/di/2d combo screens. its just reducing the learning curve and a little easier, unless youre garmin guru.

itll make folks more apt to changing their tactics to catch more fish more so than take the word of someone who has done it for 40 years and learned the hard way, ie. casting to fish more than sticking a dozen rods in front of them or following roaming schools around and casting to them, or how easy it is to spook the bigger fish, or that black crappie are an entirely different animal than white crappie. notice how a lot more black crappie are being caught now after LS was introduced.

imo, it also allows more younger folks into the pro bass tours that probably would have never had a chance without it, albeit the pro tours has become more of an expensive hobby more so than a profession in the last 20 years.
 
For 95% of the type fishing I do, live scope would be worthless. So for me I wouldn't have one. I have no problem for those that do if that's what melts their cheese. I will say this. While bluegill fishing Friday I saw two guys nearby crappie fishing and it was obvious they were scoping. Their heads never looked up and out of the boat. Interesting but not for me.
 
So from my very limited knowledge and research it seems they are most useful schooling fish like crappie?
 
So from my very limited knowledge and research it seems they are most useful schooling fish like crappie?
I have a buddy that uses it to cast to single tarpon, at night, in charlotte harbor.

He is putting up some impressive numbers.

We used to jump 6-10 fish per night and he's consistently in the 30s. I really believe it will disrupt most fisheries as the technology advances.
 
I really believe it will disrupt most fisheries as the technology advances.
Love it or hate it, the only thing constant is change.
If more people are successful at catching because of this,
then there may need to be changes in creel limits, size limits, etc.

On the other hand, over my lifetime, I've watched things "change" from a time
when most fishermen kept & ate everything they caught,
to a time today when many release most fish back to be caught again.

Does your friend keep or release his tarpon?
 
I have a buddy that uses it to cast to single tarpon, at night, in charlotte harbor.

He is putting up some impressive numbers.

We used to jump 6-10 fish per night and he's consistently in the 30s. I really believe it will disrupt most fisheries as the technology advances.

eventually folks will have to think outside the box to catch fish, especially with catch and release fish.
 
Love it or hate it, the only thing constant is change.
If more people are successful at catching because of this,
then there may need to be changes in creel limits, size limits, etc.

On the other hand, over my lifetime, I've watched things "change" from a time
when most fishermen kept & ate everything they caught,
to a time today when many release most fish back to be caught again.

Does your friend keep or release his tarpon?
It's an all release fishery. The only way to legally keep a tarpon(in FL) these days is with a kill tag which is issued under the assumption that you will weigh the fish in an effort to break a record. I'd make a bet that there are less than 20 people left fishing for tarpon records.

I agree though, in spirit, with what you are saying. When I was a kid, releasing a snook was unheard of. Now, there is a grassroots movement to let them all go, even if they are within the slot during the limited season.

I truly believe there is a cultural difference between those whose first love is hunting vs those who grew up in an area where fishing is more popular than hunting. I always laughed at my grandfather who would ask "is that a keeper?" no matter what it was that he caught on my boat.

He also laughs at me when I tell him that if it was possible, I'd bring a deer back to life and let it go after I shot it.
 
I truly believe there is a cultural difference between those whose first love is hunting vs those who grew up in an area where fishing is more popular than hunting.
It could also be a difference that in times past most fishermen needed to justify their time (and expense) fishing by bringing home something to eat. Of course, these were times when we couldn't so easily just take a selfie pic proving what we caught.

I always laughed at my grandfather who would ask "is that a keeper?" no matter what it was that he caught on my boat.

He also laughs at me when I tell him that if it was possible, I'd bring a deer back to life and let it go after I shot it.
When I was a child, we kept everything we caught. As a teenager & young man, I began releasing as many or more than I kept. Today, I don't fish as much, but do keep a few to eat, something I justify (at least in my small mind) simply by the fact I fish & catch a fraction what I did as a child & young man.

When I was a teenager & young man, there were countless days I caught a limit of 10 bass by mid-morning, and kept them all. I generally used heavy tackle (for bass) and big lures. Those 10 would commonly weigh in @ 35 lbs. I took out a lot of fish then.

Ironically, I did this without any the modern electronics. I just learned from my mentors, learned on my own, and fished hard & effectively. I still don't use any electronics when fishing by myself. May start fishing more in the future, may or may not keep or release more fish. Last year I kept enough bass for a couple meals, released the rest.

But a bigger point I'm trying to make is that there may be fewer bass, crappie, bream, and catfish being kept to eat today than decades ago. Not even sure the collective fishermen catch more today, despite those ever-becoming-better electronics.

Sometimes we worry too much about things that may not matter so much.
 
I really believe it will disrupt most fisheries as the technology advances.
Up here on the smallmouth lakes people drop down on them damiki fishing. The fishing has changed the last few years as the fish are learning if a boat is above them then the baits are on the way down. Most times they will follow a bait then swim off
 
It could also be a difference that in times past most fishermen needed to justify their time (and expense) fishing by bringing home something to eat. Of course, these were times when we couldn't so easily just take a selfie pic proving what we caught.


When I was a child, we kept everything we caught. As a teenager & young man, I began releasing as many or more than I kept. Today, I don't fish as much, but do keep a few to eat, something I justify (at least in my small mind) simply by the fact I fish & catch a fraction what I did as a child & young man.

When I was a teenager & young man, there were countless days I caught a limit of 10 bass by mid-morning, and kept them all. I generally used heavy tackle (for bass) and big lures. Those 10 would commonly weigh in @ 35 lbs. I took out a lot of fish then.

Ironically, I did this without any the modern electronics. I just learned from my mentors, learned on my own, and fished hard & effectively. I still don't use any electronics when fishing by myself. May start fishing more in the future, may or may not keep or release more fish. Last year I kept enough bass for a couple meals, released the rest.

But a bigger point I'm trying to make is that there may be fewer bass, crappie, bream, and catfish being kept to eat today than decades ago. Not even sure the collective fishermen catch more today, despite those ever-becoming-better electronics.

Sometimes we worry too much about things that may not matter so much.
OLD timers kept alot more fish than most do nowadays!! I know older guys that kept every bass they caught and have seen old pictures of some of the biggest bass fisherman in the last 50 years with stringers full of big largemouth. It was common to keep everything back in the day.
 

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