There's a lot of mechanical, material, and structural engineering that goes into archery, as well as a healthy dose of physics. That said, there's also a point of diminishing returns.
When did archery, become nerd science class?
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It all means nothing when your shooting 125lb woods goats like we have here in east tn, a simple 40lb bow with muzzys or thunderheads will pass completely through a rib cage 95 percent of the time out to reasonable distance
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Sounds like fishing.
I had a box of plastics that weighed 20 lbs when I had a boat and fished for smallie son the Great Lakes.
Used a 4" Kalimantan grub 90% of the time.
We love buying fishing tackle.
Don't even get me started on my flyfishing stuff.
I had a box of plastics that weighed 20 lbs when I had a boat and fished for smallie son the Great Lakes.
Used a 4" Kalimantan grub 90% of the time.
We love buying fishing tackle.
Don't even get me started on my flyfishing stuff.
Archery isn't JUST for deer, and shots under 30 yards. That's the thing to keep in mind. That may be all you do with archery gear, and may not ever take shots past 20 yards. Some of my favorite spots, during bow season, you can barely SEE 20 yards. But I assure you, people out west that are hunting open ground, are shooting well beyond 20 yards. AND they are hunting animals bigger then the average TN whitetail deer. So some of the gear, articles, etc are aimed for that arena.
Correct, but plenty of TN guys/hunters who shoot 30 yards max eat it up too. Those guys with the matching arrow wraps to shoot 75 pound does are the ones I speak of.
Harold Money jr
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I've always liked most of the technical side of archery. A LOT of it is completely unnecessary. But, it's fun to tinker. The reason people shoot such heavy weight inserts is they have to, to get a more forgiving light carbon arrow and to help meet weight and spine goals. It also helps push the big mechanicals deeper into deer. My .02 worth is after killing dozens of deer with a recurve and compound is you want the arrow through the lungs and out the other side. The thing that took me the longest to learn was that a bigger cut does not mean a bit on blood trail distance. I'm talking 1"-2" cut. I actually prefer the smaller cuts ( 1 1/8") nowadays. They generally walk or trot off instead of tearing out and running like crazy for the same 4-10 secs that the big mechanicals and even cut on contact broad heads. I will say after having trouble on a couple blood trails I don't like narrow 2 blades. I know some do but I want 3-4 blades personally. You can get as technical as you want!! Good luck to all this season.
I am the same way just can't leave something alone. It drive my wife nuts. She will ask but what is wrong with it and I will say nothing I just have to know how it works and I can make it better.
I was just amazed at how much it all has changed. I can remember were too expensive for me as a high school boy. No a 6 pack of them at 33 dollars, is cheaper than one single 2 blade head ( iron will ). When i set my bow up, the tech asked me he needed to know what kind of broadhead i was gonna shoot to properly spine my arrows. He asked im if i was gonna shoot a solid single bevel like iron will or a cheap light broadhead like a muzzy? I knew i wasnt in Kansas anymore lol! Unless the deer got tougher, muzzy should still do the trick. Im shocked at how fast and dead the new bows are. They have definitely changed alot!
Muzzy ain't the Muzzy of the 80s and 90s either. For years it was ran by the Musacchia family but they got bought out by the Feradyne company back in 2012. Feradyne is the parent company to basically every cheap made, but higher priced piece of junk marketed to hunting. Rage, Nockturnal, Block targets, etc. The new Muzzys are junk compared to their 90s counterparts. Cheaper material, blades not as sharp, etc.
im just the opposite. I hate messing with anything that works
im just the opposite. I hate messing with anything that works
I could shoot a 100 pound deer, 300 pound hog, or 400 pound bear in any given sit in a tree. High FOC, cut on contact heads, hand sharpened broadheads, I'll take every advantage I can get to getting a pass through. Hogs are hard to get through, big bears are pretty tough too.
What head do you shoot? Dont they all cut on contact?
Slick Tricks is what I used when I shot compounds. I don't know if they've changed any though. They used to be the sharpest out of pack blades of any I've felt. I don't bow hunt any more but do loosely follow up with it. If I ever get into it again it would be traditional archery and I can get away shooting Magnus heads with that gear.
Great broadheads, Redblood. I've been shooting those for years now. Never really got into all the mechanical hype.
If I could just control my heart rate I'd be good. Can't practice that.
I wouldnt trust em. Its amazing how many deer are shot on these hunting shows and 80 percent of the arrow is sticking out. Id wager most of those are mechanical heads
Well I guess so
bad term perhaps. I don't shoot anything expensive. I shoot magnus stingers hand sharpened with varying grits of sandpaper then polished buffing compound on cardboard at the end. That being said, if I were more serious about bow hunting hogs, I would go to something single bevel with a quality steel.
Actually they don't. Most heads punch through until the blades make contact. That's why I like the G5 Montec style heads or the old Fred Bear design of the Magnus Stinger. I'm a firm believer that mechanical heads are a bandaid for poor tuning and time spent practicing. Not a bad thing with busy schedules, limited shooting areas etc. If they make for overall more clean kills in the sport then I'm all for it, but there's a price to pay for the expended energy of opening them up. However it's probably a small one. I don't have the data. A recurve will kill a deer just as dead IF you put the time into practicing, conditioning and learning. The majority of hunters can't or won't, so technology closes the gap. I would much rather see a hunter using something from the Jetsons than a bunch of deer with arrows sticking out of their rumps.
I remember those old bears and the stingers look just like them. I guess a head with a chisel point isnt cut on contact. You can actuallly still buy those old bear razorheads on ebay nib
