Persimmon Cuttings

[TNlandowner]

"I'd rather walk your dog around the property than digging through poo "

That's true: The trick is to wait for the poo to dry up, seeds will be lying on the ground. Trust me, the seeds grow very well after running through an animals digestive tract LOL.

The ones in my yard have to be pulled up or mowed two or three times before they die...

 

[mike243]

They are already ripe and hitting the ground on a few tree's close to home,

 

[PickettSFHunter]

The seeds have to be scarified to germinate. That's why picking them up out of crap works.

 

[Ski]

They are already ripe and hitting the ground on a few tree's close to home,

Yeah that's what I really like about this particular tree. When every other persimmon tree is dropping red fruit and being raided by raccoons, this tree is still slumped over over full of green fruit. I've seen orange fruits still hanging AFTER deer season has closed.

 

[Ski]

The seeds have to be scarified to germinate. That's why picking them up out of crap works.

I've wondered if that's the ticket. Perhaps TNlandowner will let me doggy sit for a day or two

 

[BSK]

Two breeds of native persimmon exist in TN. One fruits early - usually drops right around bow opener - and the other holds fruit all fall, usually still having some fruit into December. THAT is the persimmon I want! Unfortunately, there is no way to look at a tree and tell which is which. The only way to get seed from a late-dropping persimmon is to actually collect fruit from under one of the late-dropping varieties.

One of my BILs grew many, many persimmon seedlings from seed by collecting the fruit, cleaning off the pulp, dipping the seed in hydrogen peroxide, and then putting the seed in the refrigerator for 3 months. Germination rate was very high.

 

[BSK]

Yeah that's what I really like about this particular tree. When every other persimmon tree is dropping red fruit and being raided by raccoons, this tree is still slumped over over full of green fruit. I've seen orange fruits still hanging AFTER deer season has closed.

I sure would like to get seed from that tree!

 

[sc8point]

I sure would like to get seed from that tree!

Thanks for the info. I have at least one small tree that is in front of one of my stands that often has persimmons into December and the deer eat them like candy. My Grandson in Northwest Missouri has been wanting persimmons on his place, will our persimmons grow up there?
PS: I would share a few seeds and will try to watch for others like this.

 

[mike243]

Never seen a red persimmon, the first I ever ate was in white county and it was thanksgiving when I picked them back in the mid 60's

 

[Ski]

I sure would like to get seed from that tree!

I'll snag you a big fistful. There will be plenty!

 

[Ski]

I didn't know that about two different species. Makes sense why this one is so different. It actually is different!

 

[TNlandowner]

I didn't know about two persimmon species here in Tennessee. I have seen different growth and fruit characteristics due to soil types. My trees slowly drop fruit well into December. However, the fruit is smaller than I have seen in other places.

#sc8point I have read native American persimmon trees don't grow well in NW Missouri, but a Japanese variety may handle the winters better.

 

[BSK]

I didn't know that about two different species. Makes sense why this one is so different. It actually is different!

We had one of the late-dropping variety on our place. Just one lone tree with a tiny canopy that was able to reach up to sunlight in our mature forest. And in a poor acorn year, that tree was a magnet for deer. It would still have some persimmons on it into mid-December. First deer I ever killed off my property back in the late 80s was eating persimmons under that tree opening of gun season.

 

[recurve60#]

We had one of the late-dropping variety on our place. Just one lone tree with a tiny canopy that was able to reach up to sunlight in our mature forest. And in a poor acorn year, that tree was a magnet for deer. It would still have some persimmons on it into mid-December. First deer I ever killed off my property back in the late 80s was eating persimmons under that tree opening of gun season.

I just today bushhogged lanes in two directions from the point of this persimmon. It drops fruit into mid December and is almost always loaded. Its the lone tree in the left hand corner of the lane.

 

[BSK]

That tree will be a gold mine.

 

[recurve60#]

That tree will be a gold mine.

If I can keep the hogs run off.

 

[recurve60#]

I wonder if fertilizer would keep a good tree healthy? I could envision this tree dying suddenly. Seems that happens often.

 

[Chapman]

I wonder if fertilizer would keep a good tree healthy? I could envision this tree dying suddenly. Seems that happens often.

If it is growing good it should not need fertilizer. I would cut down any trees that start growing close to it to keep them from crowding it. Also, don't get too close with a bushhog and bang up the trunk making a wound, which you probably wouldn't do.

 

[DayDay]

I don't have a dog. Can I just eat the seeds myself for collection later?

 

[recurve60#]

If it is growing good it should not need fertilizer. I would cut down any trees that start growing close to it to keep them from crowding it. Also, don't get too close with a bushhog and bang up the trunk making a wound, which you probably wouldn't do.

Its an old tree. Probably 18" in diameter. Ive seen big ones like that just die.