tree_ghost
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Negative.
A Bad Experience with Tennessee Wildlife Enforcement.
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I didn't think you was saying that at all. I assumed you were talking about Natchez Trace state park and not the parkway so i may have misunderstood
Them horns are long gone but i bet one would know where to find em!
Madbowh
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Unfortunately I will most likely ask for forgiveness than permission. Especially when without a doubt legally taken which all my deer are I like to play by the rules but that's not right in the least. I probably would say if I had good blood I'll go maybe 50 yards over the line before I go talk to someone about retrieving my deer. I don't like doing that but ugh what to do?
megalomaniac
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It is no longer a legal deer once you tresspass onto property you do not have permission to be on.
My take. In this particular situation, the hunter did everything right about contacting the park ranger to assist with retrieval of the deer. In that situation, the hunter can show the ranger the exact tree he was in, and the blood trail starting on the private property leading to the state park. Once verified by the ranger, he should have used his judgment and recognized this was an honest hunter who was playing by the rules, and then should have helped him drag his deer off state lands and back onto private property.
Totally different situation if he had been caught illegally hunting or illegally retrieving game off a state park.
Been in the same situation myself as the landowner. Caught poachers hunting on my property, shooting game on my property, and people retrieving game on my property without permission.
All the above got prosecuted except for one last year.... neighbors sons friend who gut shot a deer, then drove his truck through my winter haylage planting and rutted the field to begin his search, and I caught him at 10 pm destroying the blood trail through my woods. Prosecution would have caused too much bad blood between neighbors, but I asked for restitution for the destruction of the parts of the winter crop he ruined.
The flip side... had a few call me asking permission to retrieve game that ran onto my property after being shot. If you call first, I'm ALWAYS going to allow you to retrieve your game, and if I'm close by, I'll even help you drag it out or to one of my roads if it makes retrieval easier. IF you ask for permission first.
megalomaniac
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Just a question... why is the title of this thread bad experience with TN wildlife enforcement???
Sounds like TWRA wildlife officers did everything they could to help the hunter. Unsuccessfully unfortunately, but at least they tried.
The bad experience was with the park ranger himself, a state park law enforcement officer, not a wildlife enforcement officer.
Sounds like TWRA wildlife officers did everything they could to help the hunter. Unsuccessfully unfortunately, but at least they tried.
The bad experience was with the park ranger himself, a state park law enforcement officer, not a wildlife enforcement officer.
^^^Agree, misleading title IMO.
We have a State Park Ranger or two on this forum. I'm anxious to know if they have the "ultimate authority" for making the final decision on access and game retrieval.
bowhunterfanatic
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Just curious, but was the ranger also somehow "hunting" that deer? Jealousy is the only reason I can come up with to be a punk in the situation. I'm sure the ranger probably gets tired of dealing with poaching, but it should've been pretty easy to see the guy wasn't poaching.
tree_ghost
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I do not think he was hunting that deer no
A good example of why not to hunt property lines.
I know what I'd have done. Sometimes you don't have to televise every hunt regardless of how big. Just because it's illegal, doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do. Even if I'd got caught, so be it, deer would've been processed.
TN Whitetail Freak
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That was my goal when I started sharing this on social media. Idk why this didn't get out last season when it happened. Abram might not thought it a big deal but there is nothing but support from Tennessee outdoorsmen and guaranteed it ain't just specific to just Tennesseans
That's a sad deal there . Guess he knows what to do if it happens again .
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How is a person trespassing when walking onto a state park? If a hiker finds a shed or deadhead are they prohibited from keeping it, or is it leave everything in place policy?
Years ago, there were some heated shoot, shovel, and shut up topics about roaming unleashed dogs and feral cats.
I can understand getting permission before going onto private property. With dang cell cameras everywhere, people need to think twice today because some private property owners, and especially deer land owners, have just about gone nuts over somebody stepping foot on thier property. It is a wonder people don't shoot people when they walk on their. property and knock on their door.
I would like to know the name of this park, assuming it is a park.
In my opinion, all the state parks need some quota hunts every few years anyway.
Years ago, there were some heated shoot, shovel, and shut up topics about roaming unleashed dogs and feral cats.
I can understand getting permission before going onto private property. With dang cell cameras everywhere, people need to think twice today because some private property owners, and especially deer land owners, have just about gone nuts over somebody stepping foot on thier property. It is a wonder people don't shoot people when they walk on their. property and knock on their door.
I would like to know the name of this park, assuming it is a park.
In my opinion, all the state parks need some quota hunts every few years anyway.
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If the guy is legally hunting, then he should be able to retrieve a deer off land owned by the public for goodness sake. Perhaps somebody needs to introduce that legislation.
I've had a very bad experience myself with Tennessee Wildlife Enforcement but in this case I believe TWRA did all they could do, it's was a state park ranger that caused problems.
BlackBelt
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For years I hunted a lease that had the southern border on the TN/MS state line.
Of course, the best land funnel was right ON the state line.
It killed me to not be able to ethically hunt it, as I knew the deer would run across the line into MS.
So I hunted about 200-250 yards north of the actual line.
I understand and appreciate the OP hunters delima. He is a good man and ethical hunter. Maybe he reconsidered "boundary line hunting" after his incident.
Of course, the best land funnel was right ON the state line.
It killed me to not be able to ethically hunt it, as I knew the deer would run across the line into MS.
So I hunted about 200-250 yards north of the actual line.
I understand and appreciate the OP hunters delima. He is a good man and ethical hunter. Maybe he reconsidered "boundary line hunting" after his incident.
^^^ Did you have permission to be on the land across the State line, in MS?
That's when you do high shoulder shot , when he falls then you put him out !
