When the loggers are there…. When they leave?

bobbuck

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Im too anchored to move, lol, sorry. About as far west as I will go is Smith, DeKalb, Macon. Pretty much any county that joins Jackson or Putnam, I will travel to. Beyond that and my crew would have a mutiny if I told them we had to stay to work and only come home on weekends.
Good to know. I have some land in Fentress county that we will eventually cut.
 

Os2Outdoors

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My roads are left in better shape than when I start a job. I guess things are different here and I know there are a few bad loggers around, but Im 56 years old and a 3rd generation logger and Ive signed a grand total of ONE contract in my entire career. That dude was from Nashville and wanted a contract. I told him to draw it up, I would read it, and if I liked it I would sign it. His contract didn't contain a single thing that I hadn't already told him I would do. After signing it, I told him my word and a handshake is just as binding to me as any piece of paper.
Bottom line: know your logger and his reputation.
First sentence says it. I'm a second generation Logger in Northern middle Tennessee, Montgomery County. I tell folks when I leave a place. The roads, fields etc are in better shape than when I got there.
 

Deck78

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First sentence says it. I'm a second generation Logger in Northern middle Tennessee, Montgomery County. I tell folks when I leave a place. The roads, fields etc are in better shape than when I got there.
Any chance you want to cut a giant pile of pines in Hickman County?:D
 

skipperbrown

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I recommend a start/end date and putting trail cameras up so you can see how many loads are taken out. Match # of loads to mill tickets/dates. Take photos of roads b/f and a/ they are finished.
 

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Have the logger provide references and see if you can go out eyes on property that he has cut recently and see if it suits what you're looking for. I logged for years before switching careers and this was always a possibility for folks inquiring how we performed or how we left property when we were finished with a place. Sometimes we would leave a dozer and operator at a property for a week or more after all other equipment was moved out.
 

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Have the logger provide references and see if you can go put eyes on property that he has cut recently and see if it suits what you're looking for. I logged for years before switching careers and this was always a possibility for folks inquiring how we performed or how we left property when we were finished with a place. Sometimes we would leave a dozer and operator at a property for a week after all other equipment was moved out.
 

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Have the logger provide references and see if you can go put eyes on property that he has cut recently and see if it suits what you're looking for.
I did just that, and honestly was pleased with what I saw. They had cut heavy, but that's exactly what I wanted in the designated areas. The problem was timing. I looked at their work from a summer cut. By the time they got to me it was winter, which was fine, as I wanted the extra regrowth the first growing season after a winter cut provides. Both myself and the logger thought my chert ridgetops and roads would hold up fine during a winter cut. About 2 months and 20 inches of rain later, we found we were both wrong. Our road network was demolished. And their dozer operator was not a master at fixing winter-damaged roads. We are still paying the price, and probably will be for years, for all of that road damage. I would get a dozer operator in their who understands road-building, but they are all busy preping home sites due to the housing boom. Can't get a dozer operator for the life of me.
 

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It never too late to learn yourself now that would definitely be an asset to your business then you would 2 of the greatest jobs in the world lol.
 

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It never too late to learn yourself now that would definitely be an asset to your business then you would 2 of the greatest jobs in the world lol.
I would absolutely LOVE to learn how to run a dozer. However, buying one is a bit pricey! And any equipment I've ever rented have been worn out pieces of crap.
 

Os2Outdoors

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I did just that, and honestly was pleased with what I saw. They had cut heavy, but that's exactly what I wanted in the designated areas. The problem was timing. I looked at their work from a summer cut. By the time they got to me it was winter, which was fine, as I wanted the extra regrowth the first growing season after a winter cut provides. Both myself and the logger thought my chert ridgetops and roads would hold up fine during a winter cut. About 2 months and 20 inches of rain later, we found we were both wrong. Our road network was demolished. And their dozer operator was not a master at fixing winter-damaged roads. We are still paying the price, and probably will be for years, for all of that road damage. I would get a dozer operator in their who understands road-building, but they are all busy preping home sites due to the housing boom. Can't get a dozer operator for the life of me.
Those roads should of been left alone in the winter. If I was the logger, I'd waited till it was powder dry summer an came back an fixed it. Very easy an fast that time of year.
 

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