vol thoughts

[TeamMainStreet]

-they will continue to recruit.
-Do you really believe this? Did you not see the defense last year and the years before.May not be the best but definitely not the worst.
-maybe we are, maybe we aren't.


It has been two years. If UT beats Vandy, and I don't see why they won't but you never know, they will be one win ahead of their first year record. They will go to a bowl and a win there will be two wins ahead of last year. Were you one of the guys predicting 8-9 wins this year?

I would not consider the starters last night that have been starters the entire season to still be young,mentally anyway. They are still technically young with most being freshman. The problem is that they are really thin at most positions due to injury and the guys that are coming in to replace them are definitely still young. They are freshman with little to no playing time replacing starters because of injuries and such. Young guys tend to make mistakes, no matter if they've got the best coaches in America.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

Yes still young when you look across the field and the other team is full of jr and senior starters lol. UT is not young there the YOUNGEST played more frehmen then anyother FBS team. AJ and Worley at the start of the year was going to be are biggest loss next year and now we have lost them before the season is even over
idk about the recruiting but we had a good class last year and top 5 at the moment this year if we build of that and win 7 or 8 next season then I think we could pull in another class and keep building time will tell

 

[THEdonkey0515]

*we are sitting at 8-3 with good, not great, in game coaching

agree or disagree?

we got 5 wins so you saying we should have beat MIZZ,Georgia,and florida? Thats hard to say lol. Look at SC they should have beat us? So your saying they dont have a good coach? Really think we should have won 7 this year think they should have beat florida.and went 7-5 on the seaon your saying 9-3 thats a little to much.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

our in game coaching is poor. thats not good regardless of recruiting or age of team. the florida loss was a absolute embarrassment, the coaches should give back half their salary.

Agree should have won that game, and the vols would have atleast finished with 7 wins

 

[TeamMainStreet]

*we are sitting at 8-3 with good, not great, in game coaching

agree or disagree?

Disagree because just having a great coach does not gaurantee a win. It helps a la the SC win but not guaranteed. TN teams in the past would have lost the SC game no doubt.

We have played a ranked OK team on the road, a ranked Georgia team on the road, a ranked Ole Miss team on the road. The only loss I would consider a bad game and blowout was the Ole Miss game. Florida game should have been won and might be considered questionable coaching.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

Picture HURD as a JR, DOBBS as a senior, all them receivers grown up, are O-Line and D-Line(only team in the FBS that had to replace the entire starting line up on both sides) as jr and seniors.
Cause thats whats gonna happen, if we dont win then.I will be very scared if this team will ever be able to

 

[TeamMainStreet]

our in game coaching is poor. thats not good regardless of recruiting or age of team. the florida loss was a absolute embarrassment, the coaches should give back half their salary.

Turnovers. All 3 games could have been won if not for turnovers. Hurds fumble in the end zone at GA, Worleys interception at the goal line against FL, Dobbs fumble and interception last night killed us. The interception was on Josh Malone though. Dobbs put the pass in his hands.

I would assume that the coaches work on trying to not turn the ball over but it ultimately comes down to the players themselves in live game settings as to whether they turn the ball over or not.

 

[TeamMainStreet]

Picture HURD as a JR, DOBBS as a senior, all them receivers grown up, are O-Line and D-Line(only team in the FBS that had to replace the entire starting line up on both sides) as jr and seniors.
Cause thats whats gonna happen, if we dont win then.I will be very scared if this team will ever be able to

This all day. Some Oline recruits here and there could go a long way also.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

Florida was the only UNRANKED team to beat the vols and half them games were on the road? Did you expect us to be as good as bama or auburn? I didnt think the vols would win more then 7 there gonna get six 1 game off then I was hoping for but ill take the bowl game and the top 5 recruiting class and be happy hope they win 7+ next year I think they will and should.

 

[Gravey]

Theyre about where I thought they'd be. Should've beat Florida and could've beat Georgia. Total of 4 pts account for those two losses. The sky is not falling. Now as stater above if in two years they're not competing for the east and overall SEC something is wrong unless injury and early exits to the NFL get them. Still have a shot to get to 7 wins so hang tight.

 

[Spurhunter]

I agree that the offensive play calling is way too conservative at times, but I am not going to say the in game coaching is horrible. I'm still optimistic. We played more freshmen than any team in the country. That is the definition of young. These kids were in high school last year.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

What I dont understand is how some people picked this young team to win 4 or 5 games alot of people did matter of fact Remember that before the season started?? And we had no idea what the team would look like??? And we played better then alot thought and gonna win 6 and get to a bowl (first time since 2010)and people are upset we didnt get 8 really????

 

[easy45]

I do think the offensive play calling is horrible, every time they get in a situation where they start passing a lot they typically go down and score yet the OC always has to be extremely conservative the entire game till he is forced out of it. Common sense says why not open it up more for the entire game, Bajarikin or however you spell it is the only coach I would like to see replaced.

The defense has had a dramatic change for the better from last year to this year and special teams is better even though Deverin Young should never had been the return guy to begin with, Evan Berry should have been there all along.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

I'm not talking about you but they are people that are way to upset were not gonna win 7+ games when I don't think any expert had them winning more then 6 in the first place lol people saying fire jones after year 2 really??? Don't understand first bowl since 2010? That's enough improvement for me this year. Lost 2 games by a total of 4pts we was right on the edge of winning 7 or 8 but it didn't happen. So people need to let it go.I think we will keep improving year to year and win more then 6 next season JMO hope vols don't prove me wrong.

 

[gator-n-buck]

Could CBJ be FLs Ron Zook? This is not totally a bad thing considering that Meyer won N/C with some of Zooks players. Zook was a heck of a recruiter but his schemes and coaching were questionable at best. One disadvantage Zook had was that he followed a legend at FL (OBC).

If it doesn't work out, the next coach should have some pretty good players.

 

[leader]

I agree he can be conservative but when your line can't block and your recievers drop evey other pass and your not sure how your QB will play, well you can't really open it up....

 

[TeamMainStreet]

Mizzous defensive line is good. Our oline is not. They rushed 4 men most of the night and the rest contained the edge.The linebackers took away the middle of the field. Their CBs covered well too.

 

[gator-n-buck]

Mizzous defensive line is good. Our oline is not. They rushed 4 men most of the night and the rest contained the edge.The linebackers took away the middle of the field. Their CBs covered well too.

Yep.... SC and KY doesn't have good "Ds".

 

[dryhorn2]

Nothing to say but Freshmen and more starting each game . One or two years away. Happy with the Coaching so far..

 

[PalsPal]

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Yep.... SC and KY doesn't have good "Ds".

But you said KY was a good team !

 

[gator-n-buck]

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Yep.... SC and KY doesn't have good "Ds".

But you said KY was a good team !

I never said FL had a good "O" at that time either... KY has been beat up and lost 5 in a row since FL.

http://tennessee.247sports.com/Article/ ... l-33195549

"But it�s not a stretch to suggest the Vols didn�t look the same against the Tigers� tough defense as they did against the lackluster groups from South Carolina and Kentucky"

I guess I'm not the only one that noticed...

 

[THEdonkey0515]

Jones has did enough to be the coach again next year, after the vandy win we will be 6-6 and go to a bowl. As long as he hits the recruiting hard again and he will and wins a solid 7 next year I see no reason why he would not get a 4th year to try and win 8+ and win the east. Think in 2 years will be there best shot to win 8+ when Dobbs and Hurd and other young leaders become Jr's and seniors. If we don't hit 8+ wins then I don't know when or who could get us there!

 

[gator-n-buck]

Jones has did enough to be the coach again next year, after the vandy win we will be 6-6 and go to a bowl. As long as he hits the recruiting hard again and he will and wins a solid 7 next year I see no reason why he would not get a 4th year to try and win 8+ and win the east. Think in 2 years will be there best shot to win 8+ when Dobbs and Hurd and other young leaders become Jr's and seniors. If we don't hit 8+ wins then I don't know when or who could get us there!

Yep.... Big improvement... He might win one more game (5-7 vs 6-6) because Vandy is not that good this year...

 

[THEdonkey0515]

Yup go from 5 to 6 (this year) and I even said 7 next year lol as long as he brings another top recruiting class in 7 would be fine with me it's not HUGE improvement but it is improvement?
Brick by brick and in two years I hope it's at 8+ see
See muschamp didn't take over a team half as bad as jones did think we all agree on that. He won what 7 or 8 his first year? That's ok then 11 year number two? Then Everyone one went nutty about him and driskel and then after he coached them a few years he went backwards with 4 wins and 6 now unless they upset FSU. Hope jones don't go BACKWARDS like muschamp lol let's see how your new coach you have no idea who is, does in his first two years after taking over the team his gonna get

 

[TeamMainStreet]

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Yep.... SC and KY doesn't have good "Ds".

But you said KY was a good team !

I never said FL had a good "O" at that time either... KY has been beat up and lost 5 in a row since FL.

http://tennessee.247sports.com/Article/ ... l-33195549



"But it�s not a stretch to suggest the Vols didn�t look the same against the Tigers� tough defense as they did against the lackluster groups from South Carolina and Kentucky"

I guess I'm not the only one that noticed...

Mizz, SC, KY comparison between UT and UF


Mizzou vs UF. 42-13 UF loss
Mizzou vs TN 29-21 TN loss

SC vs UF 23-20 UF loss
SC vs TN 45-42 UT OT win

KY vs UF 36-30 2 OT win UF
KY vs TN 50-16 UT win

 

[THEdonkey0515]

^^ his gonna dodge the post and say they beat UT something that has nothing to do with your post watch

 

[gator-n-buck]

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Yep.... SC and KY doesn't have good "Ds".

But you said KY was a good team !

I never said FL had a good "O" at that time either... KY has been beat up and lost 5 in a row since FL.

http://tennessee.247sports.com/Article/ ... l-33195549



"But it’s not a stretch to suggest the Vols didn’t look the same against the Tigers’ tough defense as they did against the lackluster groups from South Carolina and Kentucky"

I guess I'm not the only one that noticed...

Mizz, SC, KY comparison between UT and UF


Mizzou vs UF. 42-13 UF loss
Mizzou vs TN 29-21 TN loss

SC vs UF 23-20 UF loss
SC vs TN 45-42 UT OT win

KY vs UF 36-30 2 OT win UF
KY vs TN 50-16 UT win

You don't need to make those comparison when the two teams played each other....

FL vs UT 10-9

Did you forget that they played GA also....

One team has lost 4 games and the other has lost 6 games.

 

[TeamMainStreet]

Florida won against Kentuckys lackluster defense by 6 in two over times.
TN drilled Kentuckys lackluster defense 50-16

Florida lost the lead to SC lackluster defense and lost by 3 in OT.
TN came back from 14 points down against SC lack luster defense and won in OT by 3.

Florida got smashed at home by a very good Mizzou defense 42-13
TN lost to a very good Mizzou defense 29-20

 

[THEdonkey0515]

I hit the nail

^^ his gonna dodge the post and say they beat UT something that has nothing to do with your post watch

Told ya

 

[TeamMainStreet]

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Yep.... SC and KY doesn't have good "Ds".

But you said KY was a good team !

I never said FL had a good "O" at that time either... KY has been beat up and lost 5 in a row since FL.

http://tennessee.247sports.com/Article/ ... l-33195549



"But it’s not a stretch to suggest the Vols didn’t look the same against the Tigers’ tough defense as they did against the lackluster groups from South Carolina and Kentucky"

I guess I'm not the only one that noticed...

Mizz, SC, KY comparison between UT and UF


Mizzou vs UF. 42-13 UF loss
Mizzou vs TN 29-21 TN loss

SC vs UF 23-20 UF loss
SC vs TN 45-42 UT OT win

KY vs UF 36-30 2 OT win UF
KY vs TN 50-16 UT win

You don't need to make those comparison when the two teams played each other....

FL vs UT 10-9

Did you forget that they played GA also....

UF did in fact beat TN by one point and in fact killed it against Georgia.

You were talking about KY and SC lack luster defenses so I compared. Now your back to UF and TN again. Stay focused here. :laugh: