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This is a very poor plan. There is no overall strategy or stated goal. There are tactics but what are the tactics aimed at accomplishing?




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Maybe it's me but I felt lost as heck reading that.

I see nothing addressing the mismanagement of deer in the Mississippi River alluvial flood plain in West Tenn.
 
Hardwoodmaterials":stb0ns15 said:
Over on Facebook over half of the replies to this are trophy hunters screaming for a 1 buck limit and antler size restrictions.

If TN goes to a 1 buck limit I will likely about quit hunting here. If there was a biological reason for it then it may be different but if they do it it would be solely for a trophy mentality.
 
hunter0925":36ngdpwt said:
Hardwoodmaterials":36ngdpwt said:
Over on Facebook over half of the replies to this are trophy hunters screaming for a 1 buck limit and antler size restrictions.

If TN goes to a 1 buck limit I will likely about quit hunting here. If there was a biological reason for it then it may be different but if they do it it would be solely for a trophy mentality.
Maybe they can reduce the opportunities some more and raise the prices of licenses.



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I kept reading about new DMUs, but don't see how they plan to set these up. Looks like more major changes and excessive complications may be headed our way.

I'd like to see them go back to a 3 buck limit, but maybe with the stipulation that no more than 2 may be taken per season (I.e., bow, ML, or gun) to appease the trophyists
 
I don't think its about management, what the hunters want, advise from biologist or the TWRA. We will get the rules and limits the commissioners, their buddies and the ones lining their pockets want no matter what the deer herd can or can't handle.
 
I believe all the lifetime licenses are catching up with them, gotta figure out how to raise more money. Another license increase will probably end my sportsman purchase and just hunt muzzleloader all season.

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I've already self imposed antlerless restrictions on my place. Looks like the EHD die off was pretty significant around where I'm at.
 
ImThere":oejvdqeq said:
hunter0925":oejvdqeq said:
Hardwoodmaterials":oejvdqeq said:
Over on Facebook over half of the replies to this are trophy hunters screaming for a 1 buck limit and antler size restrictions.

If TN goes to a 1 buck limit I will likely about quit hunting here. If there was a biological reason for it then it may be different but if they do it it would be solely for a trophy mentality.
Maybe they can reduce the opportunities some more and raise the prices of licenses.



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That's about what it seems would be happening.
 
Our license fees are already high. I've wondered the same thing with all the youth having a lifetime license, at some point a new " requirement is coming
 
I'm thinking that any new funding would have to come in the form of the MO/AR model where 1/8% sales tax goes to support the state natural resource agencies.


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I think you would have to be right.
They have already priced a lot of people out of the annual sportsman lic to where they just buy what they need. Much more I will give up myself and just bow hunt.


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Nontraditional user groups keep demanding more from TWRA while demanding not to pay for services rendered.

This funding model isn't something that TWRA can do by themselves. It will require legislation for that to happen.


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I pray they implement a one buck limit statewide. That would be the best thing they've done management wise, in years.

I can shoot a mature doe for meat.
 
hunter0925":i7sehm1h said:
Hardwoodmaterials":i7sehm1h said:
Over on Facebook over half of the replies to this are trophy hunters screaming for a 1 buck limit and antler size restrictions.

If TN goes to a 1 buck limit I will likely about quit hunting here. If there was a biological reason for it then it may be different but if they do it it would be solely for a trophy mentality.

A trophy mentality that pays the bills. Like it or not more and more hunters are wanting big mature male animals to hunt and kill. It's been this way forever, however with hunting demographics getting smaller and changing in the whitetail world it's becoming more common.

Where do we get the money from? "Trophy" hunters (which I despise that term when used as a insult) or the non hunting public via taxes?

Personally, I would love to see TN become a destination state for endless "quality" public land opportunities.
Could the velvet hunt be a start in that direction, assuming it ever becomes available on public lands?


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We were assured a few years ago that there are no hunters on TN wanting a one buck limit, so these Facebook guys are likely computer-generated "fake news" profiles. :D






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I just don't understand why the vast majority of folks wouldn't want TN managed to become a viable trophy destination.

Killing deer in TN is so easy now. The herd has progressed in huge strides.

If you want meat, shoot a mature doe instead of a young buck.

There's a private track that I hunt with a couple other guys. The first seven years we would always see one or two big bucks. The other guys would shoot the young bucks too, and this year we haven't seen a big mature buck. Wonder why! Cause the 110" 8 pointer I let walk in bow season was gunned down 200yds from where I let him walk. That's the reasoning behind it. If you hunt smart and let those younger deer live, they will hang tighter to your place while all the others around you shoot the woods up too.

Bring on the one buck limit, TWRA.
 
It seems to me higher fees, more limited opportunities to kill deer due to less buck tags or antler restrictions and more, complicated regulations is just going to drive the younger generation away from hunting.

We know the trophists want a 1 buck limit and antler restrictions. We know they will probably get what they want.


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Panther Bone":1lihlyg2 said:
I just don't understand why the vast majority of folks wouldn't want TN managed to become a viable trophy destination.

Killing deer in TN is so easy now. The herd has progressed in huge strides.

If you want meat, shoot a mature doe instead of a young buck.

There's a private track that I hunt with a couple other guys. The first seven years we would always see one or two big bucks. The other guys would shoot the young bucks too, and this year we haven't seen a big mature buck. Wonder why! Cause the 110" 8 pointer I let walk in bow season was gunned down 200yds from where I let him walk. That's the reasoning behind it. If you hunt smart and let those younger deer live, they will hang tighter to your place while all the others around you shoot the woods up too.

Bring on the one buck limit, TWRA.

How big of a track do you hunt?
 
I honestly don't care if they let everyone kill 10 bucks a season if they would lower the doe limits. Bucks don't have fawns but 1 buck can breed a dozen does! I see people say their hunting season is over when they kill 2 bucks but personally my season is over when I get enough meat to last til next season in the freezer. I don't care if they are all does or 2 small bucks and a couple does. The more Tn becomes a trophy destination the more expensive the lease prices will get and more crowded the public land will become due to more people not being able to afford leases.
 
huntinkev":1269ksys said:
It seems to me higher fees, more limited opportunities to kill deer due to less buck tags or antler restrictions and more, complicated regulations is just going to drive the younger generation away from hunting.

The majority of the younger generation I see are raised on the Buckmaster, Monsterbuck, Bonecollector mentality. These are the ones you likely despise when it comes to their trophist state of minds. These are also the future license buyers, aka TWRA fund contributors.

Make squirrel hunting great again, that's our only hope.



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I'm neither into deer hunting to kill as many as possible, nor to chase a Bone Collector mentailty. Heck, over ninety percent of the stuff I have caught or killed never had its picture taken.

It just simply doesn't make a lick of sense to me, to shoot immature bucks and kill a whole pile of does every year...to me. IMHO.

I'm fine not shooting a mature buck. I'm glad I'm healthy enough to train for western hunts, afford them, put money and time into my gear, and enjoy the outdoors with family and friends at home.

Labeling me as a trophy hunter makes it a straw man argument and that's an easy out. Not everybody wanting a one buck limit is into the stupid commercialization of hunting, fellas.

Tennessee will do what it does. I'll keep building points for other states and taking adventures every year elsewhere that push me physically and mentally. In the meantime, shoot all those young bucks you want.
 
I have nothing against someone going after a trophy buck. I've shot 3 deer, one of those was a 5 point. 3-4 deer is about all I need for freezer. I've been hunting since ML for one of the larger bucks that I have pictures of and have passed multiple decent 8 pointers. But that's my choice, I believe it should be the hunters choice.

What I don't agree with is making everyone become a trophy hunter. Those wanting antler restrictions and 1 buck limit can self impose these restrictions but don't push your beliefs on to everyone else.

What if we went to a 1 buck limit nationally....I would bet most of these pushing for 1 buck would throw a fit. There are a lot of us that don't hunt multiple states and TN is all we got.

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Panther Bone,

If you don't already know we have a sub forum for Western Hunting, actually it's hunting other than deer. Check it out and share some of your experience. Be ware though, we may backpack a couple days in the wilderness but a young buck/bull seldom gets a pass [emoji14]


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