I posted the first picture yesterday of my daughter. She wanted pics to send to her friends and so I took that one before I pulled it out of that ditch (she had to get behind it because the ditch was too steep to get next to it). We both sent text of the pics. Soon after my phone started to ring. I told everyone it is a great buck but the picture makes it look bigger than what is really is. I got it out of the ditch and took a few more. The second one shows one of those pics. I am not one to spend a bunch of time getting the right picture. Funny how the first picture makes it look a lot wider. So proud of her and a great buck! If you were to rough score the first picture and then the second, would you have been close on both??? What do you think this scores at based on the photos. I did not measure anything and took it to the taxidermist.