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What happened to the QDMA? I know several years ago we had banquets, magazines, etc..... and I havent seen anything in years! Has it gone the way of the NAHC? I AM a life member of that one, since Im not dead yet and Ive got the leather jacket to prove it but that whole organization fell off the face of the Earth it seems!
 
What happened to the QDMA? I know several years ago we had banquets, magazines, etc..... and I havent seen anything in years! Has it gone the way of the NAHC? I AM a life member of that one, since Im not dead yet and Ive got the leather jacket to prove it but that whole organization fell off the face of the Earth it seems!
They moved away from being a trophy hunting group, or at least proceeded as one with the QDMA name. Studies had shown it was more looked at by most hunters as big money old white guys killing booners and not the guy that has 5 or 10 acres and is happy to kill a 2 y/o basket 8. They kept the logo when they merge with the National Deer Alliance about the time of COVID. It's 2 groups working as 1 to make it more about introducing new hunters and not be 100% about big bucks. Ask BSK said, they have changed over about 1/2 of the staff, sold the big QDMA building and the few hundreds of acres they had in GA. Everyone works from home. It was a large savings to the group by not having this building and land.
 
They moved away from being a trophy hunting group, or at least proceeded as one with the QDMA name. Studies had shown it was more looked at by most hunters as big money old white guys killing booners and not the guy that has 5 or 10 acres and is happy to kill a 2 y/o basket 8.
Exactly why I lost interest in them and stopped working with them.

...sold the big QDMA building and the few hundreds of acres they had in GA. Everyone works from home. It was a large savings to the group by not having this building and land.
Had no idea about this. Honestly, I think they're in deep trouble as an organization.
 
The one banquet I went to, I didnt get that "old rich white guys buying booners" vibe. They had a good banquet, with good items to bid on, and nobody acted like they thought they were better than you.
 
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QDMA was essential in the changing of minds when it came to doe harvest outside of that it was a common practice of only shooting older bigger bucks. The challenge any of these organizations face is the majority of deer hunters don't have access to equipment, acreage, or funds to fully implement their programs. Trigger finger is the most important part but when your neighbor lays them down the trigger finger doesn't work. Don't get me wrong I learned a lot from the organization.
 
The one banquet I went to, I didnt get that "old rich white guys buying booners" vibe. They had a good banquet, with good items to bid on, and nobody acted like they thought they were better than you.
I joined the QDMA way back in 1995, when they only had about 5,000 members. It eventually grew to 60,000+ members. I wrote for their magazine. I donated my time to give many, many presentations at QDMA meetings/banquets. They were an organization that promoted the passing of yearling and some 2 1/2 year-old bucks to advance the buck age structure, as well as the adequate harvest of does to control population density. Anyone can do that on their hunting property. They also provided good info on fairly simple habitat management techniques. Then all of sudden they began talking about passing up all bucks below maturity. Then they started talking about waiting until bucks are 5 1/2. Habitat management advice became geared to the big, BIG landowners. In my opinion, the big change occurred when they replaced the Board of Directors - that was originally made up of wildlife biologists - with owners of big hunting equipment companies. Once trophy hunter money became the focus of the organization (my opinion), I no longer had an interest in the organization. Hunters left the organization in droves.
 
One big obstacle for QDMA is CWD. The goals promoted by QDMA and QDM are diametrically opposed to the objectives of slowing the spread of CWD. At present CWD is spreading across the cervid world with no cure in sight.
 
The one banquet I went to, I didnt get that "old rich white guys buying booners" vibe. They had a good banquet, with good items to bid on, and nobody acted like they thought they were better than you.
This was based on surveys done of the hunting community about what their perceptions of the QDMA was. I'm sure those at the banquets weren't like that. But those outside looking in did see that.
 
I joined the QDMA way back in 1995, when they only had about 5,000 members. It eventually grew to 60,000+ members. I wrote for their magazine. I donated my time to give many, many presentations at QDMA meetings/banquets. They were an organization that promoted the passing of yearling and some 2 1/2 year-old bucks to advance the buck age structure, as well as the adequate harvest of does to control population density. Anyone can do that on their hunting property. They also provided good info on fairly simple habitat management techniques. Then all of sudden they began talking about passing up all bucks below maturity. Then they started talking about waiting until bucks are 5 1/2. Habitat management advice became geared to the big, BIG landowners. In my opinion, the big change occurred when they replaced the Board of Directors - that was originally made up of wildlife biologists - with owners of big hunting equipment companies. Once trophy hunter money became the focus of the organization (my opinion), I no longer had an interest in the organization. Hunters left the organization in droves.
I joined as a reg member in '96 or '97, then became a life member 1999. I agree, the focus changed to bringing money in and being a big organization, like NWTF did. They forgot what their goals and objectives were when they started and it caused a lot of failure with the group. I think the new NDA setup is working ok but will never be what it was 15 years ago.
 
I had been a member for the talk forum and the Quality Whitetails Magazine. They scarpped the forum 7-8 years ago due to sponors not liking free talk opinions that didn't reflect well on certain products, at least that was the explanation I heard of the sudden closure. I dropped my membership. I do miss the magazine, as it seems there are few left and those mostly trash.

QDMA raised incredible amounts of money. What happened to it? Huge salaries, lots of perks?
Some sort of Ponzi scheme?

It is amazing how money and egos can spoil even things started with the best intentions.
 
A few year ago, Larry Porter led our west TN QDMA chapter. Against our advice and wishes, QDMA forced us to host a banquet 2 weeks after the NWTF event in Paris, TN. Attendance was very poor and we barely broke even. The QDMA administration cancelled our chapter. Everyone dropped our memberships and haven't missed the organization. I believe this was around 2016 or 2017.
 
A few year ago, Larry Porter led our west TN QDMA chapter. Against our advice and wishes, QDMA forced us to host a banquet 2 weeks after the NWTF event in Paris, TN. Attendance was very poor and we barely broke even. The QDMA administration cancelled our chapter. Everyone dropped our memberships and haven't missed the organization. I believe this was around 2016 or 2017.
Wasn't that about the time they killed their forum? A bunch of angry people over that. Tons of very good QDM info - evaporated overnight. :mad:
 
A few year ago, Larry Porter led our west TN QDMA chapter. Against our advice and wishes, QDMA forced us to host a banquet 2 weeks after the NWTF event in Paris, TN. Attendance was very poor and we barely broke even. The QDMA administration cancelled our chapter. Everyone dropped our memberships and haven't missed the organization. I believe this was around 2016 or 2017.
Larry is a good dude 👌
 
They joined forces with a northern organization and are now the National Deer Association (NDA). I'm not a member. Dropped my membership when they became Safari International (trophy buck organization).

The magazine is still good. For some reason, they still send me digital copies. And they seem to have learned their lesson and backed off the trophy stuff to a certain extent. But they really burned that bridge with too many hunters.
 
So not a du or nwtf vibe?
LOL I know EXACTLY what you mean! The first NWTF banquet I went to back in the early 80s or so, I knew I was outclassed and out payrolled, so for a LOT of years I decide to invest my money in MY wildlife, not some "superfund" that took an act of congress to get your resources back. \
With all that said, I only need to sponsor one more time at an nwtf banquet to be a lifetime sponsor member lol.
 
LOL I know EXACTLY what you mean! The first NWTF banquet I went to back in the early 80s or so, I knew I was outclassed and out payrolled, so for a LOT of years I decide to invest my money in MY wildlife, not some "superfund" that took an act of congress to get your resources back. \
With all that said, I only need to sponsor one more time at an nwtf banquet to be a lifetime sponsor member lol.
I went to one of the NWTF Conventions. Within 15 minutes of listen to 20,000 hunters practicing their turkey calls, I had a splitting headache and had to leave!
 
I started (maybe restarted) the Mid TN QDMA Chapter back in 2009 in hopes of meeting like minded hunters and to offer education seminars. We hosted several seminars with BSK and Craig Harper and to be honest I was blown away at the amount of interest with several hundred attending. We were guests on radio and TV outdoor shows and interest was booming. Then the HQ team started pressing for banquets and auctions versus being happy with people signing up for memberships and subscriptions. I quickly lost interest but met some of my best hunting buddies and made an amazing network of contacts that I still get to work with today.
 
I started (maybe restarted) the Mid TN QDMA Chapter back in 2009 in hopes of meeting like minded hunters and to offer education seminars. We hosted several seminars with BSK and Craig Harper and to be honest I was blown away at the amount of interest with several hundred attending. We were guests on radio and TV outdoor shows and interest was booming. Then the HQ team started pressing for banquets and auctions versus being happy with people signing up for memberships and subscriptions. I quickly lost interest but met some of my best hunting buddies and made an amazing network of contacts that I still get to work with today.
Giving seminars for QDMA groups was some of the best fun I had. met so many great people, as well as dedicated, passionate hunter-managers.
 
Giving seminars for QDMA groups was some of the best fun I had. met so many great people, as well as dedicated, passionate hunter-managers.
Attended a few of those meetings, even convincing my wife to attend one where you talked about trail cameras. She did not find it as interesting as I did.
 
Giving seminars for QDMA groups was some of the best fun I had. met so many great people, as well as dedicated, passionate hunter-managers.
I watched one of your seminars at the Williamson County AG Expo building many years ago. I was supposed to have been watching my son after your seminar and got to talking to you and he wandered off. Luckily my wife saw him walk away and got him! He is now grown so it has been 16-17 years ago.
 
I watched one of your seminars at the Williamson County AG Expo building many years ago. I was supposed to have been watching my son after your seminar and got to talking to you and he wandered off. Luckily my wife saw him walk away and got him! He is now grown so it has been 16-17 years ago.
I remember that Hillbilly Hunter!
 
Funny, but hunters are always saying, "Sorry for bothering you..." or "I don't want to take up your time..." when they come up to me after a seminar. Are you kidding me? This is what I do for a living, and it's a true passion. I live, breath, eat this stuff! Where else can I find people willing to look at all my data! 🤪
 

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