My wife got in my climber one day. We had it on the light pole. I was working on my seat. She climbs up around 10 feet, and the bottom slides off her feet. and fell all the way 2 the ground.
I had 2 get my feet in the straps, and bear hug the pole and climb up to get her.. Somehow, I was able to climb down this tree with 2 people in my climber. She was scared to death.
She doesn't mind the ladder stands because of the shooting rail, and I put camo burlap around it, to make it like a blind. it helps alot.