I have a Kel Tec 32 that I carry alot in the summer. There is no excuse to leave it at home since its so easy to carry, so in my mind its a good gun to have. I would rather have it in .380 but I double dog dare anybody to take a clip full out of my 32. I have done some wet phonebook tests with the 32 and was not impressed with the penetration of the hollow points. I tried the 60 gr Gold Dot and the 65 gr Hydra Shock. The Gold Dots would not open reliably, the Hydra Shocks did ok on expansion, but would lodge in the second phone book. I now alternate hollow point/FMJ through the clip.