Dog problem

[diamond hunter]

Ive been 2 my farm 2 times recently and seen the same 2 dogs in a couple fields,one a bird dog with a collar and the other a mixed brown dog.I tried getting close and calling but they ran.How does that effect my deer hunting and how do I catch them or what and what to do if I did catch one of them?My farm is in Westmoreland.Thanks

 

[Southern Sportsman]

There are two ways to handle that. One is hard and likely wont fix the problem. One is easy and is 100% guaranteed to fix the problem.

 

[Woodson223]

My neighbor has a lab that he lets run loose.I have asked him several times to do something with him because the dog was messing up my deer hunting.He never did nothing about it.Last year i was hunting during rifle season and the dog was still coming over and messing me up.One very cold morning here comes the dog got about 15 yards or so from my stand and starts taking a dump he was all bowed up.Any way i had all i could take so i aimed about 5 feet behind him with my 270 and let it rip.Needless to say when he took off he was still bowed up and wasn't through using the bathroom.So far to this day he will not leave his yard.It scared the-out of him.I can still picture that morning and get to laughing about it.

 

[BDS05]

Be done with it or let the PROBLEM keep dragging on...

 

[KENBOB10]

Hi

My neighbor has a lab that he lets run loose.I have asked him several times to do something with him because the dog was messing up my deer hunting.He never did nothing about it.Last year i was hunting during rifle season and the dog was still coming over and messing me up.One very cold morning here comes the dog got about 15 yards or so from my stand and starts taking a dump he was all bowed up.Any way i had all i could take so i aimed about 5 feet behind him with my 270 and let it rip.Needless to say when he took off he was still bowed up and wasn't through using the bathroom.So far to this day he will not leave his yard.It scared the-out of him.I can still picture that morning and get to laughing about it.

Well crap, I wouldn't come back either! Some things are sacred to man and beast.

 

[Boll Weevil]

One is easy and is 100% guaranteed to fix the problem.

Yep.

 

[knightrider]

S.S.S.

 

[Woodson223]

I just can't shoot someones pet that's going to go home to some little boy or girl.Now if it's some mange dog or a dog that comes at me very aggressive then that's different.This is just my opinion and only my opinion.Everybody handles there dog problems there own way.To each their own.I know there is a leash law and people with dogs are supposed to be responsible dog owners.I have dogs and i do not let mine run loose.JMO

 

[lung-buster]

S.S.S

 

[Hunter 257W]

Why is a dog just running across a field not chasing a deer such a problem?

 

[diamond hunter]

Its 2 dogs and they are running across several fields and one of them barks every once in a while.They have no business being on my land in the first place.

 

[diamond hunter]

I also livea distance away and don't know whats going on behind my back.

 

[fishboy1]

catch dog.
Take 2 counties away to pound.

Let owner drive an hour to pay the fine and pick up their hound.
Tends to get their attention.

 

[Urban_Hunter]

Why is a dog just running across a field not chasing a deer such a problem?

They are most certainly chasing deer, but by the time you saw them the deer were long gone.

My best warning tactic was to tell the owners that I had a bad coyote problem and had decided to set traps. If the dogs got in the trap (snare) they would most certainly be killed. Has worked twice in the past... one time it didn't. SSS. Make no mistake, dogs WILL ruin a hunt... and there are no telling how many they have already ruined that you aren't aware of. JMO

 

[DaveB]

A dog does not have to chase a deer to cause the deer to flee. And if the dog/deer interaction is repeated the deer will leave the area.

I have a big problem with loose dogs.

 

[Hunter 257W]

Just a pet peeve (pun intended) with me when city people buy an old farm - that they don't live on - then expect the neighbors who have lived there for years to pen their dogs up year round so the city folks can come out and deer hunt on a prime unmmolested area. Deer exist everywhere and dogs are everywhere too. Deer get used to them. A few dogs running around can't run all the deer off. As long as the dogs aren't running them repeatedly while you are hunting, I don't see the big deal. I would never shoot a pet just because it is on my land. OK, tha's all I'm going to say about this because I know it can get heated and that's not my intention.

 

[scn]

A dog does not have to chase a deer to cause the deer to flee. And if the dog/deer interaction is repeated the deer will leave the area.

I have a big problem with loose dogs.

I seriously doubt that you would find any scientific evidence to validate your statement on deer/dog interactions. IMO, it is WAY off.

 

[xatxay]

I've always felt like dogs were just as likely to run deer toward my stand as away from it.

 

[Dbllunger]

I've always felt like dogs were just as likely to run deer toward my stand as away from it.

Yep, this has happened to me several times. I just can't bring myself to shoot a dog for being a dog.

 

[woodsman87]

I wish people would not complain so much about dogs. Yes they chase deer. They can't read and have no idea what is going on. Their owners are responsible. I would not shoot a dog unless it was trying to get me. They don't even effect deer like people think.
Dog chases deer. Deer runs away. Deer comes back. I would like to see scientific evidence/research on how dogs or hunting dogs completely run deer out of an area to never return.

 

[plinker22]

While hunting, dogs frustrate me too!

That being said, lots of Coon hunting goes on in deer woods are and those same woods are still great deer woods the next morning!

 

[dgolden]

We too have had a dog problem in the past at our farm. A few years back we had about 6 or 7 dogs that were chasing deer around. We tried the old shoot behind them to scare them off trick but did not work. Asked the few people that live close to our farm if they belonged to them and they all said no. One afternoon we pulled into our front field and there were 3 dogs barking and biting at a yearling doe that was dead.

 

[Urban_Hunter]

I wish people would not complain so much about dogs. Yes they chase deer. They can't read and have no idea what is going on. Their owners are responsible.

They don't even effect deer like people think.
Dog chases deer. Deer runs away. Deer comes back. I would like to see scientific evidence/research on how dogs or hunting dogs completely run deer out of an area to never return.

.............I would like to politely COMPLETELY DISAGREE

Their owners are not responsible, in fact... they are breaking the law. Dog chases deer, deer runs away, deer comes back? Not in my experience. More like dog chases deer, deer runs away, I go home empty handed. Ever shot at a running deer? Not a moving deer... a running deer. A deer that is trying to get away from something trying to eat it. Dogs don't affect deer that much? Deer will avoid a camera because it flashes or makes a clicking sound. You think they won't avoid an area where they constantly get chased/attacked by dogs? How about this one... Goat farm next to my farm in Smith county. Deer were all over the salt they had out for the goats but the yotes kept getting the little ones. Owner got one of those giant white long haired dogs. NO MORE DEER AT THE SALT LICK.

 

[woodsman87]

I wish people would not complain so much about dogs. Yes they chase deer. They can't read and have no idea what is going on. Their owners are responsible.

They don't even effect deer like people think.
Dog chases deer. Deer runs away. Deer comes back. I would like to see scientific evidence/research on how dogs or hunting dogs completely run deer out of an area to never return.

.............I would like to politely COMPLETELY DISAGREE

Their owners are not responsible, in fact... they are breaking the law. Dog chases deer, deer runs away, deer comes back? Not in my experience. More like dog chases deer, deer runs away, I go home empty handed. Ever shot at a running deer? Not a moving deer... a running deer. A deer that is trying to get away from something trying to eat it. Dogs don't affect deer that much? Deer will avoid a camera because it flashes or makes a clicking sound. You think they won't avoid an area where they constantly get chased/attacked by dogs? How about this one... Goat farm next to my farm in Smith county. Deer were all over the salt they had out for the goats but the yotes kept getting the little ones. Owner got one of those giant white long haired dogs. NO MORE DEER AT THE SALT LICK.

I didn't mean deer come back immediately, but will later. Those big white dogs are bred to keep things away from goats, so it is doing its job.
And BTW, I said some scientific research data about dogs being bad for deer hunting, not someones opinion.
I get upset when a dog comes through one morning while hunting, but I don't go and cry about it and go home. Some of the craziest things happen in the woods sometime.

I will let yall cry about a little dog going through the woods while I continue to hunt regardless.

 

[scn]

I'm not advocating dogs running free and dogs running deer. But, I've never seen any evidence that a dog/deer interaction causes deer to leave the area. There are places that are coon hunted heavily at night and deer hunted during the day. The deer don't leave the area.

The statement I disagreed with said nothing about being constantly run or attacked. It said if the dog/deer interaction was repeated that deer would leave the area. IMO, way off.

I'll depart and leave it to the dog haters.

 

[woodsman87]

I'm not advocating dogs running free and dogs running deer. But, I've never seen any evidence that a dog/deer interaction causes deer to leave the area. There are places that are coon hunted heavily at night and deer hunted during the day. The deer don't leave the area.

The statement I disagreed with said nothing about being constantly run or attacked. It said if the dog/deer interaction was repeated that deer would leave the area. IMO, way off.

I agree with you. And I defend dogs because I like hunting small game with dogs.

 

[Urban_Hunter]

Those big white dogs are bred to keep things away from goats, so it is doing its job.
And BTW, I said some scientific research data about dogs being bad for deer hunting, not someones opinion.


I will let yall cry about a little dog going through the woods while I continue to hunt regardless.

Those big white dogs are bred to keep things away from goats? Would that qualify as scientific research data stating that in the area of the salt licks there are no deer as a direct result of that dog chasing them away? If you don't mind... how is that any difference at all? It is still a dog chasing deer away regardless of the goats. The deer have adapted to avoid that area.

Also if you don't mind, could you please PM me your address for where you hunt. I have decided that I will now trap the dogs in a fall door trap. I will then bring them to you hunting spot to release them. You wouldn't mind would you?

SCN, I'm with you on the coon hunting dogs. I would just like to add that the owners of said dogs ALWAYS throw in their "Hey mister, can I hunt here" speech that their dogs are specifically trained to not chase deer. I think a deer that sees a dog vs a deer being chased by a dog is two different creatures.

 

[knightrider]

folks who let their precious dogs run loose should be fined every day until and enclosure of some kind is put up!! i dont have dogs and i dang sure dont want anyone elses!!!!

 

[Planking]

I think a deer that sees a dog vs a deer being chased by a dog is two different creatures.

That's what i see. Rabbit, coon and bird hunters hunt one place i own and im sure they bump some, but i just don't see much of an impact, if any. I bump them too sometimes. That's a totally different situation than the habitual deer runner. These sob's leave the dog hoarders house and head straight for my bedding areas every morning. Half my time there is spent rescuing deer. Its sickening the things i have witnessed them doing to deer. This has been going on since i can remember. I think we have it fixed finally. No dogs yet and more deer and sign than i have seen there in 15 years. The place were they usually start running has 10 or so scrapes in it this year and is covered in sign. Not a single dog pic. Its never been this good before.

 

[Planking]

I'm not advocating dogs running free and dogs running deer. But, I've never seen any evidence that a dog/deer interaction causes deer to leave the area.

It would be interesting to see evidence related to stress levels, birth rates, body weights, and mortality rates for dogs running deer. I bet someone could strap a few cameras to a couple and find out what they are up to pretty quick.