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REN said:
Man. While I don't like using decoys or the culture behind that hunting style, the gentleman asked a question in a hunting forum looking for options. Telling him to "learn to hunt" was s a bit out of line. If you don't have a response or have something to help him just leave it alone. Man this once was a community where we helped one another or at least gave comments that said the other side a different way
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I agree 100%
 
Setterman said:
Look I could be snarky as my disdain for decoys is extremely well known.

I'll choose to not be my normal self. I will however question trying to have a 4 year old kill a bird or heck even a 6 year old. Seems fishy, like dad wants a jump on the season so let's drag the new born out so I can hunt. We've seen it on here before.

Next, why is there this mentality that for kids to get into something these days it's got to be super duper easy? Most of us grew up earning things not having them gifted to us. Such a weird instant gratification culture now. I'm glad I was taught to hunt not kill. I'm also glad I learned range estimating tactics without a crutch.

As far as decoys, it's like kissing other dudes. Just don't start and don't cross that line or forever more you know what you'll be labeled 🤣🤣🤣
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Dude you are a karen.
 
BigCityBubba said:
For all the decoy haters, which decoys do you hate the most because they are so effective that there is no challenge to the hunt? Just asking so I know to stay clear of them.
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It's the ones you just place out and they call the turkeys for you, if the gobblers are hesitant to commit it will chase them down, bring them back and hold them while you shoot…
I think they are called "Hitman decoys" by Tom Foolery…
 
The most amazing part of this conversation (and it happens every time) is people bring up decoys, then anti decoy hunters comment on it, then the pro decoy take it personal and start name calling and making comments back to the other side doing the same thing they got upset about to start with :)

Fact 1 - hunting WITH decoys is % wise more successful then never using them
Fact 2 - Hunting WITH decoys generally speaking is a more lazy (for a lack of a better word, not calling PEOPLE lazy just the hunt style) then without
Fact 3 - Hunting WITH decoys covers up a lack of experience or overall woodsman ship in a lot of people (again not saying if you use them you are not a good hunter)

Those are all facts that cant really be debated. If you like or prefer those options then until its illegal have at it, BUT dont get mad or offended if some of those facts are brought up by folks that are against them.
 
REN said:
The most amazing part of this conversation (and it happens every time) is people bring up decoys, then anti decoy hunters comment on it, then the pro decoy take it personal and start name calling and making comments back to the other side doing the same thing they got upset about to start with :)

Fact 1 - hunting WITH decoys is % wise more successful then never using them
Fact 2 - Hunting WITH decoys generally speaking is a more lazy (for a lack of a better word, not calling PEOPLE lazy just the hunt style) then without
Fact 3 - Hunting WITH decoys covers up a lack of experience or overall woodsman ship in a lot of people (again not saying if you use them you are not a good hunter)

Those are all facts that cant really be debated. If you like or prefer those options then until its illegal have at it, BUT dont get mad or offended if some of those facts are brought up by folks that are against them.
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I really scratch my head at the accusations of "self righteous" "holier than thou" by guys who either like using decoys or say "if it's legal then do it". Then they proceed to hate someone for their opinion and explanation. Some who are against decoys have called names which is not helpful.
 
scn said:
Little bit of a difference in the traditions of hunting waterfowl over decoys versus the turkey crap.
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Which means duck hunters have just been doing it longer? I am pretty sure you can find some evidence somewhere that Indians or settlers used turkey decoys at some point.
 
REN said:
That's been brought up before (just like the always posted loin cloth and sling shot comment) but waterfowl and turkey decoy topic isn't really apples to apples
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Of course. But you can't fit every turkey hunt in a box either. Seems the most adamant against them hunt a certain which they believe is the only way...
 
So I guess I better stop using my decoy? :D

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Bgoodman30 said:
Of course. But you can't fit every turkey hunt in a box either. Seems the most adamant against them hunt a certain which they believe is the only way...
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I don't. I use to not care 10 to 15 years ago. I was it's legal so who cares. Now I care a lot. It's about the turkeys not peoples feelings. I have seen it with my own eyes turkeys being there one year and completely gone another. So if taking decoys out helps that problem ban them. Alabama obviously feels the same way or they wouldn't have banned them for the first part of the season. Just because it's legal doesn't make it ok. And just because I disagree with those that use them doesn't mean we aren't on the same team. If hunters are to disagree anywhere it should be on this site with other hunters. And stand united against true issues in the real world not on some site literally made for hunters by hunters. Same ones calling me and others elitist and self-righteous are the same ones that bashed Seekones post back in the fall. And what he did was legal as well (supposedly)
 
Bgoodman30 said:
Of course. But you can't fit every turkey hunt in a box either. Seems the most adamant against them hunt a certain which they believe is the only way...
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Sure you can. Hunts should not be measured in success or failure. And the 2nd comment I also don't find true. Yes they are adamant and they believe there is a true way to hunt them to fully experience what it is but that doesn't assume it's the ONLY way. That claims that if you don't do it exactly how they do then you are doing it wrong which imo is not their point. Their point is more for the sport, tradition, experience, knowledge, and future of the species all wrapped into a method that takes all those into account.

Turkey hunting hits most that have done it for years and years much different than todays hunters. It wasn't as popular a thing to do and required a much different perspective vs the common deer hunting. Required you to really learn and study the species and majority of hunts never ended with success but that didn't really matter at the end of the day.

Just my 2cents based on a perspective a lot like guys such as setterman and others. I grew up hunting bama and decoys were always illegal so I had no choice but to learn how to hunt them without. That taught me so many valuable lessons
 
REN said:
Sure you can. Hunts should not be measured in success or failure. And the 2nd comment I also don't find true. Yes they are adamant and they believe there is a true way to hunt them to fully experience what it is but that doesn't assume it's the ONLY way. That claims that if you don't do it exactly how they do then you are doing it wrong which imo is not their point. Their point is more for the sport, tradition, experience, knowledge, and future of the species all wrapped into a method that takes all those into account.

Turkey hunting hits most that have done it for years and years much different than todays hunters. It wasn't as popular a thing to do and required a much different perspective vs the common deer hunting. Required you to really learn and study the species and majority of hunts never ended with success but that didn't really matter at the end of the day.

Just my 2cents based on a perspective a lot like guys such as setterman and others. I grew up hunting bama and decoys were always illegal so I had no choice but to learn how to hunt them without. That taught me so many valuable lessons
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They run and gun on big blocks of timber which is why the have they feel so strongly decoys are stupid because in that situation they are. Same for Dave Owens types because they hunt from South FL to Washington, Why would they sit and wait behind some decoys? Some guys have the only 100 acre family cattle farm with 13 trees to hunt and running and gunning with no decoys is not really the best option. Sure you can do it but you bump the birds to the next county.. If they want to blind hunt with decoys I got no hard feelings toward them.

I will be in AL the 31st with no decoys in hand. ;)
 
I couldnt care less either way- but they are not for me. Im not patient and they would just weight me down
 
I think it's hypocritical for guys that have access to hundreds and hundreds of acres of private farms absolutely loaded with turkeys to tell someone else decoys make it too easy. I've been to places like that and I've killed turkeys pretty easily without decoys, but most of my hunting is done on timber company land with a small turkey population. You could back an 18 wheeler load of decoys in there and it's still going to be harder to kill a turkey there than a loaded private farm. Honestly a decoy wouldn't do you any good because it's too damn thick for him to see it anyway. Lee Lakosky can't tell me not to shoot 130" bucks when he hunts the land of giants. A guy that goes to Mexico and catches 8+ pound bass on every cast can't tell me not to be proud of a 6 pounder from Glenn Springs. Everybody is in a different situation.
 
Bgoodman30 said:
They run and gun on big blocks of timber which is why the have they feel so strongly decoys are stupid because in that situation they are. Same for Dave Owens types because they hunt from South FL to Washington, Why would they sit and wait behind some decoys? Some guys have the only 100 acre family cattle farm with 13 trees to hunt and running and gunning with no decoys is not really the best option. Sure you can do it but you bump the birds to the next county.. If they want to blind hunt with decoys I got no hard feelings toward them.

I will be in AL the 31st with no decoys in hand. ;)
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Not true. I hunt small fields, but fields, big timber and small tracks. I hunt all types, so again you're assuming they are all hunting the same type of stuff thus are all the same. I imagine folks on here have hunted every type of terrain you can. Heck I know very few that hunt huge block of timber.

The amount of land doesn't force you to hunt any specific way, that's the choice of the hunter
 

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