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Zero as far as the rules are concerned. It's clearly illegal to hunt over bait in TN and IMHO also not fair chase. But, there will be many who disagree. I think it changes the dynamics of trying to predict the goings and comings of mature bucks and I prefer to try to understand them in their natural environment.
 
Id say a low percentage. It doesnt hold mature bucks during daylight and the cost is outrageous
 
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Considering how fast it flies off the pallets at CO-OP, TSC, and Wal-Mart, I'd have to guess it's a tangible percentage. Maybe not a majority but certainly a chunk of the hunting population. I also kill deer every year with corn in their bellies, yet no corn fields anywhere in the area. So somebody is sure doing it. IMO, one thing TWRA has gotten right is not allowing bait, but I sure wish they'd put more effort into enforcing it.
 
Considering how fast it flies off the pallets at CO-OP, TSC, and Wal-Mart, I'd have to guess it's a tangible percentage. Maybe not a majority but certainly a chunk of the hunting population. I also kill deer every year with corn in their bellies, yet no corn fields anywhere in the area. So somebody is sure doing it. IMO, one thing TWRA has gotten right is not allowing bait, but I sure wish they'd put more effort into enforcing it.
Just FYI…I have two clients who are game wardens…one just recently retired. We've had this discussion. Both said all they do is "put out fires". They don't have time to be proactive looking for baiters, so the only baiters they can bust are those us ethical hunters turn in to them, but then they generally only have time to try to catch them once or twice before having to move onto the next "fire". So, my guess is this goes on more than we know, especially on privately owned properties. I'd imagine the skyrocketing price has curbed it somewhat, but it's goes on more than we know. My neighbors on two adjoining sides have been busted for baiting over the years. I don't know how the game warden found out 🤷‍♂️.
 
Who truly knows. I really don't know how trespassing on the neighbors property is less of an infraction than someone putting out food. At least the guy putting out corn is good for the economy and farmers. No, I don't bait, but I'm certainly not against it.
 
Who truly knows. I really don't know how trespassing on the neighbors property is less of an infraction than someone putting out food. At least the guy putting out corn is good for the economy and farmers. No, I don't bait, but I'm certainly not against it.
I may have completely misinterpreted your post since I'm on my second Margarita, but I have permission to be on both my neighbors property so probably not good to make assumptions. In both cases the hunters baiting didn't have permission, so there's that. I'm not against baiting either with the obvious exception it's illegal in TN.
 
I may have completely misinterpreted your post since I'm on my second Margarita, but I have permission to be on both my neighbors property so probably not good to make assumptions. In both cases the hunters baiting didn't have permission, so there's that. I'm not against baiting either with the obvious exception it's illegal in TN.
Did I call you a trespasser?
 
Just to add perspective to the baiting issue and the behavior of deer. Ames has started baiting with corn feeders in a non hunting area in order to catch and collar deer. In the previously non hunted area the deer came in daylight. In the previously hunted area, they fed after dark. After 4-5 days, they started coming in daylight too. It definitely changes their behavior. I'm curious to see what happens after they start netting and tranquilizing them.
 
Less than you think. We couldn't afford it honestly. Food plots are way cheaper then a bag or corn especially it today's market. It's it legal I don't care. If it's illegal I don't care. I have hunted states that bait and the vast majority of big deer killed I've been around and known in Kentucky and mississippi are not over feeders.
 
No sir you didn't. Just couldn't make sense of the trespassing correlation with the exception it came right after my post. Like I said, could have completely misinterpreted it 🤷‍♂️.
It really had nothing to do with you, but you see it year after my year. My neighbor, my neighbor. He does this or that. If most of the baiters are being turned in because someone stumbled upon a corn pile, didn't that guy most likely break a law too.
 
It really had nothing to do with you, but you see it year after my year. My neighbor, my neighbor. He does this or that. If most of the baiters are being turned in because someone stumbled upon a corn pile, didn't that guy most likely break a law too.
Yep that makes sense for sure. I get what you're saying 👍
 
Less than you think. We couldn't afford it honestly. Food plots are way cheaper then a bag or corn especially it today's market. It's it legal I don't care. If it's illegal I don't care. I have hunted states that bait and the vast majority of big deer killed I've been around and known in Kentucky and mississippi are not over feeders.
This is very true, except, have you bought fertilizer lately for your food plot? 🤣
 
Just FYI…I have two clients who are game wardens…one just recently retired. We've had this discussion. Both said all they do is "put out fires". They don't have time to be proactive looking for baiters, so the only baiters they can bust are those us ethical hunters turn in to them, but then they generally only have time to try to catch them once or twice before having to move onto the next "fire". So, my guess is this goes on more than we know, especially on privately owned properties. I'd imagine the skyrocketing price has curbed it somewhat, but it's goes on more than we know. My neighbors on two adjoining sides have been busted for baiting over the years. I don't know how the game warden found out 🤷‍♂️.
I know snitches get stitches but ill turn in every piece of sh&t that baits on public all day every day and twice on Tuesdays. turned one in this year and warden busted him. it sucks when you work hard to pattern deer in an area and then a guy starts doing that and changes everything. I abandoned that whole piece of public for the rest of the season after that. hopefully it's back to normal next season.
 
I know snitches get stitches but ill turn in every piece of sh&t that baits on public all day every day and twice on Tuesdays. turned one in this year and warden busted him. it sucks when you work hard to pattern deer in an area and then a guy starts doing that and changes everything. I abandoned that whole piece of public for the rest of the season after that. hopefully it's back to normal next season.
I do not hunt public land...but you're starting to scare me. 😂
 
This is very true, except, have you bought fertilizer lately for your food plot? 🤣
I work in the fertilizer business and looks like the cost may be down, a little, as of now but who knows what it'll be come next month... or the next.
 
This is very true, except, have you bought fertilizer lately for your food plot? 🤣
Still cheaper by a lot lol. Have you seen what a 50 pound bag of corn is? It hurts don't get me wrong farming in this craziness is not for the faint of heart. But in the end baiting for us would turn out a whole lot higher even if we buy it in bulk.
 
Still cheaper by a lot lol. Have you seen what a 50 pound bag of corn is? It hurts don't get me wrong farming in this craziness is not for the faint of heart. But in the end baiting for us would turn out a whole lot higher even if we buy it in bulk.
Yeah I guess it's relative to the size of the food plot compared to the intensity of the baiting. We keep a corn feeder going in the side yard 24/7 so we can enjoy watching all the wildlife but no hunting remotely close to the house for those wandering. Anyway, the last corn I bought was $10.75, so yes it's crazy expensive no doubt! To another ones point, I put a camera on that feeder a couple years ago in November and didn't have one single mature buck visit it one time even during the rut. Yet, the next ridge over probably 350 yds away had a several visits by mature bucks even in daylight on mock scrapes. I suppose if someone just wanted to kill any size buck, then a pile of bait is probably effective.
 
I have never used corn for baiting to hunt or even for camera bait stations.

How well does it actually work at killing big bucks?

I never got bucks big or small over corn feeders, only does on camera. I used to put them out after the season for winter.

After turkey season I put out cattle mineral and got all sizes of bucks on camera up until about mid September. Then nothing but does.
 
I have never used corn for baiting to hunt or even for camera bait stations.

How well does it actually work at killing big bucks?
I suspect not very well. Sure, there are some rare occasions. We put corn out on our Ky lease this year. We never hunt over it and only put it out a couple times. Primarily for photo ops. I killed a big nine this year. Buddy passed on a couple decent bucks. No bait was out. I do, however, believe if you put some out right now you may have a decent chance of seeing a mature buck simply because there isn't much to eat.
 
Zero as far as the rules are concerned. It's clearly illegal to hunt over bait in TN and IMHO also not fair chase. But, there will be many who disagree. I think it changes the dynamics of trying to predict the goings and comings of mature bucks and I prefer to try to understand them in their natural environment.
How is a lush food plot a natural environment ? Not trying to start an argument but food plots are on most leases now and really effective but not natural. If the data says these corn piles or feeders are killing our deer plus our turkeys why are more and more states bordering us allowing it.
 

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