Blackhorn has gone up.

[squirrel_hunter]

In my local Walmart this morning. They had the place marked for blackhorn. But haven't gotten any in. The price Walmart had it at 84.00 a can

 

[Carlos Viagra]

Holy smokes, that makes me think switching over to BH wasn't a very good idea.
At least I already have enough to last me for a few seasons.

 

[Jcalder]

It's went astronomical, and to an 8oz can

 

[Carlos Viagra]

In my local Walmart this morning. They had the place marked for blackhorn. But haven't gotten any in. The price Walmart had it at 84.00 a can

Someone who's bored should calculate how many shots a can would be equal to...
Nevermind... someone already has. Here's what they advised.

"An 8oz jug is 3500 grains (ish). If shooting 90gr volume (63gr weight) that's approximately 55-56 shots."

 

[squirrel_hunter]

I seen it in sportsman's warehouse for 79.99.

 

[Remington700]

Luckily when it got hard to find a few years ago I bought a few cans of it.

 

[DoubleRidge]

Wow....but even at that price it would last me years.....I have the CVA breech plug to convert over to the Blackhorn...just hadnt done it yet...still have half can of Triple-7...so I may hold off one more year.

 

[Carlos Viagra]

That's over $1.75 per shot for the powder only!

Add the bullet of choice and it's going to be nearly $3 per shot!
Going to be way cheaper to just shoot em with a rifle and forget the MZ.

Imo it isn't worth it, and if everyone pays that much, the price won't go down for awhile.

 

[squirrel_hunter]

I bought several cans 2 yrs ago. I went in this little gun shop. Its crazy on prices. They had a bottles of triple 7 for 68.69. I wont be buying any from that store.

 

[ROVERBOY]

I picked up 3 cans for some guys at work last year. I asked them if they was crazy.

 

[MUP]

The cheapest I've seen it lately is $70.99 per 8oz can.

 

[Wobblyshot1]

Thanks Hodgdon.

 

[TnKen]

That makes me feel a little better about the high$$ sabots I shoot in my 20 gauge. The Savage 10ml I have is even cheaper.

 

[knightrider]

I bought 10 i believe 10 oz bottles at 28 bucks a bottle in 2020 from a local shop

 

[Carlos Viagra]

I bought 10 i believe 10 oz bottles at 28 bucks a bottle in 2020 from a local shop

That'd about what I remember paying in '20... about $23 plus tax if I remember correctly.

 

[iowavf]

One of the reasons I sold my 45 Encore and opted for a Mossberg 450 bushmaster. I like BH but was having a hard time finding it and I don't shoot 200 yards plus like I use to with the 45 TC. I can use my 44 mag pistol for late ML here in Iowa, so I get by.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

When I found it for $53 a can last year, I bought 4 of them. I'm set for life

 

[Antler Daddy]

why so high?

 

[DaveTN]

why so high?

You will see all kinds of wild azz guesses to that question. But I don't see any answers from Hodgdon or Western Powder.

It might be as simple as they don't want to mess with making the runs of it anymore as the market shrinks.

Usually when you see crazy pricing, it's the retailers, not the manufacturers ripping us off claiming supply and demand. In this case it's the manufacturer.

Most of the conversation about Blackhorn is about the price. But people keep buying it.

 

[CHRIS WILSON]

In my local Walmart this morning. They had the place marked for blackhorn. But haven't gotten any in. The price Walmart had it at 84.00 a can

Looks like when my current stash gets used up, I'll be moving on to something else. That's just ridiculous.

 

[Smo]

why so high?

It's the best stuff since sliced bread…. Or so I hear.
I've never used it…
Everyone wants too magnumize their smoke pole for those long shots!

Nobody wants too spend time cleaning up after using real black powder.
Sometimes I may use as many as 10 patches cleaning my smoothbore after shooting ffg Goex.

 

[BSK]

I still shoot FFFg. I guess I'll upgrade to Triple 7 and quit there.

 

[hillbillyfab]

When my bottle and half of 209 is gone, I'll shoot 777 and just swab away.

 

[Carlos Viagra]

I'll just hunt with my HPR, times are hard.

 

[MUP]

I stocked up a couple years ago, and should be good for life now. 2 bottles.

 

[squirrel_hunter]

No more than i shoot my ML. I should have a enough for a very long time. Plus i have 2 or 3 cans of triple 7. I was using it before blackhorn. And killed many deer. I shot 6 times last yr. And killed 5 deer with blackhorn. The 1 i was shooting thru brushes in a little opening. And hit a limb . I like blackhorn alot. BUT not paying high prices like that.

 

[BSK]

When my bottle and half of 209 is gone, I'll shoot 777 and just swab away.

I wonder how much of the "crud ring" etc. claims about 777 is due to powder charge? Almost everyone in my family shoots 777 except me, and no one has ever experienced a "crud ring." And 777 is the cleanest burning powder any of us have ever used. One patch after a shot and the barrel is clean as a whistle. But then no one is shooting more than 90 grns of 777.

 

[Smo]

In my opinion your lube has as much too do with fouling build up as the powder..
However my experience is limited to using real black powder not substitutes.
They don't perform well in a flintlock gun.

 

[CHRIS WILSON]

I wonder how much of the "crud ring" etc. claims about 777 is due to powder charge? Almost everyone in my family shoots 777 except me, and no one has ever experienced a "crud ring." And 777 is the cleanest burning powder any of us have ever used. One patch after a shot and the barrel is clean as a whistle. But then no one is shooting more than 90 grns of 777.

You may be onto something. At one point, I use to shoot 80 gr of FFF 777 with a 410 gr Conical out of a older model CVA Optima. Never once remember dealing with crud ring formation in that rifle and load combo. I have had it rear it's head when shooting higher volume load 777 loads with lighter weight bullets though. Surely someone out there has done some experimentation comparing crud ring formation to powder load size.

 

[Wobblyshot1]

I wonder how much of the "crud ring" etc. claims about 777 is due to powder charge? Almost everyone in my family shoots 777 except me, and no one has ever experienced a "crud ring." And 777 is the cleanest burning powder any of us have ever used. One patch after a shot and the barrel is clean as a whistle. But then no one is shooting more than 90 grns of 777.

Bill Knight aka "Mad Monk"(sadly now deceased) who knew more about black powder and its substitutes than the average bear studied the "crud ring phenomena. His conclusion was that 777 burned extremely hot and very heavy charges with it exasperated the problem. His recommended cure was to back off on your charge.