20ga and TSS #9s

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For some that wonder what all the fuss is over this expensive TSS shot, I thought I'd share a few pics....
While I don't encourage long shots, and knowing I'll get flamed for this, I can assure you I know exactly what my effective range is with any gun I carry. The guys that hunt with me know that I spend lots of time and money shooting paper and although I kno punching paper is different than hunting situations, I kno what's a good shot and what's not when in the woods..
Anyhow here's some 20ga TSS devastation from 54 yards.... Bird went down and then flipped on his back and it was over, and I'm sure you can see why..
 

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It is truly amazing how far we've come in more effective turkey loads over the past few years.

My 20 ga turkey gun is now more "effective" in all respects than the 12 ga I've killed most of my turkeys with over the past 30-plus years.
And mine isn't even as effective as yours! :mrgreen: I'm still just using the Federal Heavyweights loaded with #7's in my 20 ga, which basically trumps the performance of most any 12 ga. loaded with "lead" turkey loads.

Sadly, it hasn't been all good.
IMO, too many turkey hunters are neglecting to practice and learn better shooting (& hunting) SKILLS, while neglecting to realize that with more "rifle-like" patterns AND when shooting at longer ranges, the importance of having the poi & poa perfectly aligned becomes even more critical (almost necessitating a need for optical sights).
 
No doubt bro. I'm never going back to anything other then TSS in the 20 after what I saw it do this year


Joshua 24:15
"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord."


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muddyboots":3s4vtwtv said:
Will they do 81 ? That's what I needed this morning. 3 times!!!

From what I've researched, the answer is 'yes'.... but that takes all the fun out of getting them in your face before you shoot.
 
For the REM 20 GA, I'd be looking for .565 - .575 constriction. The Remington super full at .572 is a solid choice for TSS for $25 or so. If you want to step it up a notch, go with an Indian Creek or Jebs in the .565 - .572 range. One of the great things about TSS is you don't have to own a high dollar choke to make it perform. The TSS shot string stays intact a lot like the Win Longbeard shells, thus they don't have to be choked like lead and HTL. Good luck with your choice.
 
555 Indian creek and 562 Indian creek are hard to beat in most guns


Joshua 24:15
"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord."


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Roost 1":1msqb5h7 said:
Although I highly recommend JEBS chokes, I use a .560, for a little over $20 you can get a carlsons .575 or so that will put roughly 250 in the 10" and 250 more in the 20" @ 40yds.

Same setup I'm using. I killed one at 45 last week with mine and although I didn't make near as good a shot as you did the result was the same. A stone cold dead bird on the ground.
 
Andy S.":yzghvyqg said:
For the REM 20 GA, I'd be looking for .565 - .575 constriction. The Remington super full at .572 is a solid choice for TSS for $25 or so. If you want to step it up a notch, go with an Indian Creek or Jebs in the .565 - .572 range. One of the great things about TSS is you don't have to own a high dollar choke to make it perform. The TSS shot string stays intact a lot like the Win Longbeard shells, thus they don't have to be choked like lead and HTL. Good luck with your choice.

I have a TruGlo in .565
I guess I will start with it
 
You want your gun/choke/TSS shell combo to yield around 250/250 at the 40 yard distance. That equates to 250 hits in the 10" circle and another 250 in between the 10" and 20" circles. If you can get your combination to do this, you can safely estimate a 70% retention rate in hits for each additional 10 yards the target is.

For example: a combination that produces 250/250 at 40 yards will also typically produce 250 * 70% (.70) = 175 hits in both circle at 50 yards, as well as 175 * 70% (.70) = 122 hits in both circles are 60 yards, which is further than most need to be shooting, including myself. I say all of this to show how the TSS combos will add some insurance for misjudgement of distance, not to promote turkey sniping as some seem to enjoy.
 
Mine is currently around 300/200 at 40yds. That seems to be a consistent average for my set up. I shot mine at 53 yds one day last week and got 189 in the 10", I didnt count the 20' due to being in a hurry.
 
Seems about right Roost1 and 300/200 is nothing to sneeze about. I can see why the 53 yard turkey bled so much with that hot of a core burning his a$$ up. :)
 
muddyboots":1nna2cem said:
Can you load this in the 12 or is there no advantage over the 20?
You can load straight TSS in the 12, but anything over 1 5/8 ounces is overkill since you can get away with small shot sizes (8.5, 9 & 9.5). Because of this, most people load 2 3/4" and 3" shells for the 12 GA. For the simple reason you can get 1 5/8 oz shot in a 3" 20 GA hull, most people are toting the 20 due to it being lighter to tote all day, while not sacrificing any performance out to 55 yards or so. I loaded and shot a blend of TSS/HEVI (1 oz of each) and TSS/Lead (1 oz of TSS, 1 1/4 oz of lead) in my 12 GA this year and it performed well. I blended it to cut down on the cost of each shell as 1 ounce of TSS is half the cost of 2 ounces.
 
Andy S.":1ons2t4w said:
muddyboots":1ons2t4w said:
Can you load this in the 12 or is there no advantage over the 20?
I loaded and shot a blend of TSS/HEVI (1 oz of each) and TSS/Lead (1 oz of TSS, 1 1/4 oz of lead) in my 12 GA this year and it performed well. I blended it to cut down on the cost of each shell as 1 ounce of TSS is half the cost of 2 ounces.
Andy, just curious as to what size shot you used for your TSS/ Hevi shot loads?
 

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