20ga and TSS #9s

[TN hunter]

#7 HEVI and #8.5 or #9 TSS for a 2 ounce load in a 3" shell. Recoil is there but nothing like 3.5" Nitros or MagBlends.

I agree. I started shooting 12g 3" 2oz of 8.5x9's TSS last season. The recoil is nothing compared to the nitros I had been shooting prior to the switch to TSS.

 

[muddyboots]

Yawl have me intrigued. I don't care about overkill. I want to load some for my 12. What would u guys recommend to load?? I want to be good at the farthest distance possible. We have thinned pines and seeing 250 to 300 yards easy. I don't get many close shots. Keep in mind I'm a complete newbie on this matter. Lol. Where should I start.

 

[Andy S.]

For your 870 setup, I'd recommend a 3" 2 ounce blend of TSS 8s and 9s. You will most likely need a more open constriction choke than you shoot now. Is your rhino a .660? If so, I'd recommend a .675 choke or thereabouts. I'd shoot your rhino first to see how it performs before buying a new choke, but generally speaking, TSS loads do not have to be choked like lead and HTL loads.

 

[Andy S.]

mb - read through this thread, it should answer most of your questions about starting out. http://www.tndeer.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=326326&hilit=Hal

 

[muddyboots]

Thank you.

 

[spoon]

If anyone is looking for .28 felt, Precision Reloading has some in stock now

 

[muddyboots]

Well yawl have me fired up. I think I'll try it for next yr

 

[TN hunter]

Well yawl have me fired up. I think I'll try it for next yr

Once you cross over to the TSS side. There is no return!! You will have those nitros for sale in the classified section in order to buy more TSS.

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

For your 870 setup, I'd recommend a 3" 2 ounce blend of TSS 8s and 9s. You will most likely need a more open constriction choke than you shoot now. Is your rhino a .660? If so, I'd recommend a .675 choke or thereabouts. I'd shoot your rhino first to see how it performs before buying a new choke, but generally speaking, TSS loads do not have to be choked like lead and HTL loads.

Andy's my buddy but I'm gonna disagree on the blend part, I'd go with straight 8.5 or 9s IMO blending really isn't worth the trouble

 

[Andy S.]

Andy's my buddy but I'm gonna disagree on the blend part, I'd go with straight 8.5s or 9s IMO blending really isn't worth the trouble

You cannot go wrong on the straight #8.5s or straight #9s as Rock stated. The blend I mention is really not a blend, and it is really just a result of me tinkering with different loads and such. I don't blend the shot, I just load 1 ounce of #8s or #8.5s on bottom and 1 ounce of #9s on top, which takes a little more time to weigh out because I keep them in two different containers and each size has to be weighed individually. Straight #8.5s (270-280 pellets per ounce) or #9s (360/ounce) will serve you well.

 

[muddyboots]

Ok is this the wrong thinking? If I loaded 2 oz of tss # 7 wouldn't that have more knock down power say at longer distance???

 

[Roost 1]

Over kill when 9s will do the job at 75+ yards... actually 2oz is more than you need.

 

[TheLBLman]

Over kill when 9s will do the job at 75+ yards...

Are you saying a #9 TSS will consistently shoot thru a turkey's skull at that range?

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

Over kill when 9s will do the job at 75+ yards...

Are you saying a #9 TSS will consistently shoot thru a turkey's skull at that range?

I know 8.5s will completely pass through breast and breast bone at 50

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

Ok is this the wrong thinking? If I loaded 2 oz of tss # 7 wouldn't that have more knock down power say at longer distance???

Stick with 8's 8.5s or 9s

 

[Andy S.]

Stick with 8's 8.5s or 9s

Ditto.

 

[TheLBLman]

Ok is this the wrong thinking? If I loaded 2 oz of tss # 7 wouldn't that have more knock down power say at longer distance???

What you trying to knock down, free-range ostrich? :mrgreen:

 

[muddyboots]

Ok is this the wrong thinking? If I loaded 2 oz of tss # 7 wouldn't that have more knock down power say at longer distance???

What you trying to knock down, free-range ostrich? :mrgreen:

23 lb turkeys who stand at 80'yards and look for an hour.

 

[Roost 1]

Over kill when 9s will do the job at 75+ yards...

Are you saying a #9 TSS will consistently shoot thru a turkey's skull at that range?

I have not, nor will I ever try to shoot one that far but I've been told they are lethal even further than 75...

 

[REN]

I've seen some gel test stuff on TSS and the last one I saw showed TSS 9 penetrating at 68yds what lead 6 did at 42 yds. It will wreck a turkey well past what you ever need to shoot


Joshua 24:15
"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord."


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[whiskey]

Well my experiance with TSS 9's is...

if you miss them, it doesn't kill them worth a damn.

Your experiance may differ.

 

[muddyboots]

Ha ha

 

[Roost 1]

Well my experiance with TSS 9's is...

if you miss them, it doesn't kill them worth a *****.

Your experiance may differ.

:bash: :bash:

 

[PalsPal]

Why isn't one of the ammo companies mass producing these?

 

[TheLBLman]

I'd speculate it's been a combination of two main reasons:

1) They haven't felt it would be profitable, and couldn't afford to lose huge amounts of money in finding out.

The market for TSS has been mainly a relatively small number of turkey hunters. Keep in mind the majority of turkey hunters are making their purchase decisions mainly on price, still opting for lead turkey loads, not even opting for the HTL (simply "heavier than lead") superior turkey shells which are widely available and less costly than if they were loaded with TSS.

2) Increased liabilities. There is less liability when a handloader purposefully chooses TSS for his loads, since the liability I'm talking about is the increased range of it being lethal, and how much more it will penetrate compared to lead.

But with more awareness being raised
would be nice to see Federal come out with a new "Super Heavyweight", maybe with an initial offering in #8.5 size shot.
Federal has already "pushed this envelope" farther than any other major manufacturer (with their "Heavyweight" line).

Winchester has gone the opposite direction, trying to market longer-range lead shells, and currently doesn't even manufacture an HTL turkey shell. Neither does Remington. At one time, I was very pleased with the Winchester Extended Range HTL turkey loads, which I liked much better than other brands.

 

[Roost 1]

Why isn't one of the ammo companies mass producing these?

Cost associated with the TSS shot itself.

 

[muddyboots]

I have a Mec shotgun reloader. Could I set it up to load these??

 

[Andy S.]

I have a Mec shotgun reloader. Could I set it up to load these??

Yes, or you could use a roll crimper and literally load them on your tailgate if you had a cordless drill and all of the components. It is that easy once you get all of your components.

 

[REN]

In addition shot size requirement of states may push out some of the would be profit as well. If you can't shoot 9 shot in a specific state then you will loose that state in sales.


The actual reloading part is very easy. I made a couple calls to Adam and a few others when I was getting started but it didn't take long to get it all down.


My main recommendation is build a shot trap so you are not just wasting shot when trying to do testing


Joshua 24:15
"But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord."


Sent from my phone sucka

 

[FARMTOFIELD]

I have a Mec shotgun reloader. Could I set it up to load these??

All you could really use is the crimper