Really dumb scope sighting in questions

[scn]

I "think" I know some of this, but it has been a long while since I sighted in a new rifle, and I usually had someone more knowledgeable helping me along.

My Leupold says one click equals 1/4 minute. That means 4 clicks to move it one inch at 100 Yds???

If I shoot it at 25 yds and adjust to make sure I am on the paper at 100 yds, does it take 16 clicks to move it an inch?

This is my new 45 cal smokeless, so it is a little more time consuming than just racking in another round. I'd love to get it done in the least number of reloads possible.

Thanks, Steve

 

[fairchaser]

In short yes.

 

[Carlos]

If you have a vice, nd someone to help you, I've got a way to sight in rifles in as little as 3 shots.

 

[Carlos]

Here's how it works. The shooter fires a shot from 25-50 yards at a substantial sized target. Leave the rifle in the vise, and place the crosshairs on the bullet hole in the target. Here's where the 2nd person comes in. While the shooter is looking they the scope, and the crosshairs are on the bullet hole, have the helper move the adjustments on the scope, while the shooter watches the crosshairs line up to the bulls-eye.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
It works very well. Btw that was not a dumb question sir.

 

[scn]

I have a laser bore sighter. If I bore sight it at 25 yds and do a half way decent job, would I be OK at foregoing the shot at 25 yds and going on out to 100 yds. Should it be on the paper at 100 yds with a decent bore sight at 25 yds?

 

[Jcalder]

Here's how it works. The shooter fires a shot from 25-50 yards at a substantial sized target. Leave the rifle in the vise, and place the crosshairs on the bullet hole in the target. Here's where the 2nd person comes in. While the shooter is looking they the scope, and the crosshairs are on the bullet hole, have the helper move the adjustments on the scope, while the shooter watches the crosshairs line up to the bulls-eye.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
It works very well. Btw that was not a dumb question sir.

I've done this a few times but if you bring your final shot too high you'll shoot over your target at 100 yards every time. The rise from 25 yards to 100 is much different. I prefer to stay a bit low until I can get on sandbags and truly dial it in.


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[Omega]

I use a lead sled to zero, usually in around three or four shots. I fire, then move the crosshairs to the hole and repeat. Once the shot hits where I aim, I take it out of the lead sled then fire it just resting on a bag, like I hunt, to verify my zero. I can do this at 100 yards, because the human error is reduced if not eliminated with the lead sled. When just using a bag, I do a series of three round groups, to make sure I am doing my part, if my rifle is not grouping, I don't normally move my crosshairs until they do. I've used 50 yards, then 100, to do this, hardly ever closer since I began boresighting.

 

[MUP]

Here's how it works. The shooter fires a shot from 25-50 yards at a substantial sized target. Leave the rifle in the vise, and place the crosshairs on the bullet hole in the target. Here's where the 2nd person comes in. While the shooter is looking they the scope, and the crosshairs are on the bullet hole, have the helper move the adjustments on the scope, while the shooter watches the crosshairs line up to the bulls-eye.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
It works very well. Btw that was not a dumb question sir.

I've done this a few times but if you bring your final shot too high you'll shoot over your target at 100 yards every time. The rise from 25 yards to 100 is much different. I prefer to stay a bit low until I can get on sandbags and truly dial it in.


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I've used this method as well, but just usually get on paper at 50, then, usually on paper at 100 as well from that point, I'll fire one at the 100 yd distance and then dial to that hole from my hold point of the crosshairs.

 

[fairchaser]

I have a laser bore sighter. If I bore sight it at 25 yds and do a half way decent job, would I be OK at foregoing the shot at 25 yds and going on out to 100 yds. Should it be on the paper at 100 yds with a decent bore sight at 25 yds?

Yes, you should be on paper at 100 yards. The difference between 25 yds and 100 yds is less than 1 MOA. The laser should work fine but I usually just look down the bore which should be possible with an inline muzzleloader. Center the bore on the target and adjust the scope until it's also centered. Fire away and then use the bullet hole method described or use the clicks per inch method to make windage and elevation adjustments. If you sight in an inch or two high at 100, you should be good to hold dead on out to 150 yards.

 

[scn]

Thanks, all!

 

[Carlos]

After this, you've taken away one of the would-be excuses in case you miss.
:tu:

 

[infoman jr.]

Here's how it works. The shooter fires a shot from 25-50 yards at a substantial sized target. Leave the rifle in the vise, and place the crosshairs on the bullet hole in the target. Here's where the 2nd person comes in. While the shooter is looking they the scope, and the crosshairs are on the bullet hole, have the helper move the adjustments on the scope, while the shooter watches the crosshairs line up to the bulls-eye.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
It works very well. Btw that was not a dumb question sir.

You've got it backwards. You should place the crosshairs on the bullseye and move them with the turrets to the bullet hole.

 

[TiminTN]

Here's how it works. The shooter fires a shot from 25-50 yards at a substantial sized target. Leave the rifle in the vise, and place the crosshairs on the bullet hole in the target. Here's where the 2nd person comes in. While the shooter is looking they the scope, and the crosshairs are on the bullet hole, have the helper move the adjustments on the scope, while the shooter watches the crosshairs line up to the bulls-eye.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
It works very well. Btw that was not a dumb question sir.

You've got it backwards. You should place the crosshairs on the bullseye and move them with the turrets to the bullet hole.

This is correct.

 

[peytoncreekhunter]

To your original question.....yes that is the correct amount of "clicks".

With 1 click being 1/4 inch movement at 100 yards, it would take 4 clicks to move 1 inch. At 50 yards it would be 8 clicks, at 25 it would be 16 clicks.



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[scn]

After this, you've taken away one of the would-be excuses in case you miss.
:tu:

I've never needed excuses-I just miss. I am a pretty good shot with a shotgun, but I SUCK with a rifle. It is OK because it is always a NICE surprise if the deer drops when I shoot.

 

[Hunter 257W]

I prefer to literally bore-sight myself if it is a rifle capable of removing the bolt so you can see down the bore. OF course bolt actions are the easiest. Marlin lever actions are real easy to take the lever off and slide the bolt out. Just have to be careful not to lose the ejector. A break action muzzle loader would be relatively easy to take the breech plug out and just lay the barrel and scope on sandbags. Simply look down the bore like it was a peep sight and then align the crosshairs with the bore. It gets you easily on paper without a shot being fired.

 

[Cherokee]

I prefer to literally bore-sight myself if it is a rifle capable of removing the bolt so you can see down the bore. OF course bolt actions are the easiest. Marlin lever actions are real easy to take the lever off and slide the bolt out. Just have to be careful not to lose the ejector. A break action muzzle loader would be relatively easy to take the breech plug out and just lay the barrel and scope on sandbags. Simply look down the bore like it was a peep sight and then align the crosshairs with the bore. It gets you easily on paper without a shot being fired.

I agree, works very well. It is amazing how well our eyes can determine the center point of a circle. The same principal applies to peep sights. I will place barrel in vice in my shop and look out as far as possible (~100 yds), adjust the scope to what the barrel is pointing at, and on paper every time.

 

[DaveB]

I do what Carlos suggests. Works really well. If you cannot hold the rifle still when adjusting the turrets just fire bullet #2 and repeat Carlos's steps.

 

[Teacher]

Which one is it? Crosshairs on bullseye and move to the bullet hole, or crosshairs on bullet hole and move to the bullseye. Not much of a scope man myself so that's why I'm asking.

 

[KPH]

Which one is it? Crosshairs on bullseye and move to the bullet hole, or crosshairs on bullet hole and move to the bullseye. Not much of a scope man myself so that's why I'm asking.

Cross hairs on bullseye and move to bullet hole