Thanks guys, I'm running probably 35 miles a week. I've been running for years and don't mind the cold down to about 30 degrees but as I get older, I find the cold less tolerable. Every year, I like most let off training a little in the the cold months but I really want to keep it up this year. I have been running inside at the gym some but find the 16th of a mile track boring and I don't like the treadmill but both are better than nothing. My wife has begin to run/walk again and ask me to see about getting one. I think i'd enjoy it more early in the morning while watching the news in my rec room. I'm a very early riser about 4am and like to get my workout over for the day. unfortunately I work a lot of overtime and mornings is the only way I can keep it as part of my dailey routine and keep it up. Plus I'm tired in the evenings, if I lucky enough to be home by 9pm I enjoy spending my evenings relaxing with family or on TnDeer forums. It works for me and has for years. I hope to run my 11th marathon in the spring and would like to be competitive in my age group 50 -55. Like you guys said I figured they might be someone out there having buyers remorse and be able to get a nice one with little use for a good price.