Vrabel fired?

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Vrabel sabotaged himself behind the scenes with the Titans so he could go to New England and be the head coach up there next year. Titans have been below average for the last two seasons and need a rebuild especially on the O line.
 
Spurhunter said:
I defer to your expertise on all things whitetail deer, but I must disagree here. Perhaps he was the best coach, but the last 2 years were horrible. He was ultra-conservative on both sides of the ball. The play calling, especially on offense was....offensive! They completely wasted Derrick Henry. If Vrabel's coordinators were at fault he should've fired them.
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They did fire last year's Offensive Coordinator. Because his play-calling was so predictable. Play-calling was better this year.

But the Titans troubles haven't been because of coaching, they have been a terrible offensive line. Defensive lineman are now so fast and strong, if you don't have a good offensive line, it doesn't matter how good your Quarterback is. He's not going to complete many passes with defensive lineman hanging all over him 1.5 seconds after the snap. Tannehill is actually a pretty good QB. He was terrible last year and parts of this year because the offensive line is so bad. They gave the stats for each of our lineman individually on how often they are beat by the defender. Three of the strters were worst in the league for their position. One was second worst and one was third worst.

And who chooses the players? The GM, not the coach. They fired the GM last year and brought in a guy that will clean house. Total rebuild. Not so sure that's a good idea, but that's what's going to happen.
 
BSK said:
They did fire last year's Offensive Coordinator. Because his play-calling was so predictable. Play-calling was better this year.

But the Titans troubles haven't been because of coaching, they have been a terrible offensive line. Defensive lineman are now so fast and strong, if you don't have a good offensive line, it doesn't matter how good your Quarterback is. He's not going to complete many passes with defensive lineman hanging all over him 1.5 seconds after the snap. Tannehill is actually a pretty good QB. He was terrible last year and parts of this year because the offensive line is so bad. They gave the stats for each of our lineman individually on how often they are beat by the defender. Three of the strters were worst in the league for their position. One was second worst and one was third worst.

And who chooses the players? The GM, not the coach. They fired the GM last year and brought in a guy that will clean house. Total rebuild. Not so sure that's a good idea, but that's what's going to happen.
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I agree the O line was atrocious, but on the rare occasion they ran Henry to the outside he gained yards. But they insisted on running him up the middle 95% of the time. You are correct that terrible O line is a huge handicap, but there are plays that are more effective than others.
 
BSK said:
Ha!

I think those outside Nashville have no concept of how much money an NFL team brings into the city. It's many, many millions in jobs and taxes revenues.
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And people, the titans were the seed for the "it" city, that "it" status has destroyed most everything that made the old Nashville unique, it has also driven its leftward trend. Prior to the nfl coming Nashville was not that bad of a place, it was fun to visit, now it sucks.
 
BSK said:
Ha!

I think those outside Nashville have no concept of how much money an NFL team brings into the city. It's many, many millions in jobs and taxes revenues.
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And how much are they paying out ? Give me that answer then we can talk.
 
Coker said:
Who are the Titans?
NFL sucks!!!
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liberals sure love em

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I know a lot of y'all like the titans and all but nobody can deny that since they've come the place has become unrecognizable to the natives if they can even afford to live there anymore. I really don't care about the Nashville/Davidson co. part but it's all the other counties and the state in general that got put on the national radar. For those that remember what it was it's really sad.
 
Iglow said:
I know a lot of y'all like the titans and all but nobody can deny that since they've come the place has become unrecognizable to the natives if they can even afford to live there anymore. I really don't care about the Nashville/Davidson co. part but it's all the other counties and the state in general that got put on the national radar. For those that remember what it was it's really sad.
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We get it. Middle Tennessee isn't like it was in the 50's. I don't think that was what this thread was about though.
 
I don't know but I heard he was heavily involved in making Tannehill the guy and I think that was a mistake. Bigger picture I don't think the franchise is strong and has made horrible draft choices for multiple years. That's obviously not all on him.
Overall I liked Vrabel and think he is a good coach, but I also think a lot of times in the NFL you just have to cycle through coaches after so long, especially if you get stuck in the middle of the pack and can't break through.
 
They trade away their best talent (brown and byard) then expect to win…I think this blow up has been in the works prior to this season. Wouldn't be surprised if vrabel doesn't land on his feet on NE and wish titans would have kept him, but new GM is writing on the wall. Vrabels body language told me he was headed out couple games ago. Surprised they didn't take peanuts for henry earlier this year.
 
I think he did good with what Mike Mularkey and Ruston Webster built. He maintained what they started then fell off as those players aged out. I also think his heart was out of it and he wanted to be in NE. Probably the right move long term.

Really would like to see Ben Johnson the OC from Detroit, but so would ever team with a HC opening.
 
Iglow said:
I know a lot of y'all like the titans and all but nobody can deny that since they've come the place has become unrecognizable to the natives if they can even afford to live there anymore. I really don't care about the Nashville/Davidson co. part but it's all the other counties and the state in general that got put on the national radar. For those that remember what it was it's really sad.
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You're forgetting that middle Tennessee was the fastest growing area in the country well BEFORE the Titans were even a consideration in Nashville area. It's the main reason I decided to move here when I graduated school and was looking for a place to open my practice. Titans didn't show up till about 5 years after I got here.
 
Dbllunger said:
You're forgetting that middle Tennessee was the fastest growing area in the country well BEFORE the Titans were even a consideration in Nashville area. It's the main reason I decided to move here when I graduated school and was looking for a place to open my practice. Titans didn't show up till about 5 years after I got here.
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Well...so much for staying on topic....but I'll play nice.
If the firing of Mike Vrabel destabilizes and degrades the titans organization I'm glad it happened.
My only interest in the titans is a victory for the team they are playing that week and that they set an nfl record for the most consecutive 0-17 seasons.
 
Iglow said:
Well...so much for staying on topic....but I'll play nice.
If the firing of Mike Vrabel destabilizes and degrades the titans organization I'm glad it happened.
My only interest in the titans is a victory for the team they are playing that week and that they set an nfl record for the most consecutive 0-17 seasons.
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Lol.....you took it off topic when you blamed the Titan's organization for the total moral collapse of Nashville and middle Tennessee. Im just making you aware of actual facts.
 
Iglow said:
And people, the titans were the seed for the "it" city, that "it" status has destroyed most everything that made the old Nashville unique, it has also driven its leftward trend. Prior to the nfl coming Nashville was not that bad of a place, it was fun to visit, now it sucks.
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Nashville becoming the "it" city was going to happen anyways because of our no state income tax and - at the time - low cost of living and housing. Knoxville has no NFL team and they've been flooded with Progressive Yankees as well.
 
BSK said:
Nashville becoming the "it" city was going to happen anyways because of our no state income tax and - at the time - low cost of living and housing. Knoxville has no NFL team and they've been flooded with Progressive Yankees as well.
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You guys keep leaving off the first two letters...
 

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