Unit L Extra Week
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Buzzard Breath
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To drive up lease prices. There's no better way to do that than by offering limited opportunities to those that can afford leases or land in unit L.teryx800":rty8n34p said:
That is understandable. I myself do not have a problem with a 2 buck limit. I have never killed more than 2 a year anyways. What does concern me is the new proposal for Unit L. I feel it will hurt our herd in a bad way. Killing doe that are already impregnated. Almost makes me sick thinking about it.
Commissioner Bill Cox sure brought this up at the last moment and the rest of the Commission voted for it from what I interpreted against the advice by Chuck Yoest. I wonder who is lining Mr Cox pocket with this?
catman529
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doesn't make a dang difference if they are pregnant or not, if you kill a doe at any time during the season she will not have any more fawns.teryx800":254bgtmv said:
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catman529
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please tell me how it is not good from a management point of view? Only thing I can think of is there might be an early shed buck running around, but that's the case through a lot of December as well. Remember there has always been a late juvi hunt a week after season too. Parts of New Jersey that need doe management have a doe bow season going into February.teryx800":2prpw6ai said:
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On the Cumberland Plateau in southern middle tn we do not see rutting deer until around or after Christmas and all the way till the end of season. Now, that being said, why on God's green earth would it be a good idea to shoot doe that have been breed or are getting bred, knowing you are ruining the chance of an increased herd. We do not have a whole abundance of deer here anyways like some other parts of unit L.
Tennessee Lead
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UpperTully":2kkwbzse said:
Maybe insurance companies?
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There is no telling, but it sure seemed odd this happened, they were real stand offish at making any changes during discussion of the turkey proclamation but took off and ran with this one.
catman529
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First you said you have plenty of doe to go around, now you are saying you don't have a whole abundance of deer and don't want to ruin the chance of an increased herd. Make up your mind and do some research before complaining about an extra week of doe hunting.teryx800":1zqb3udw said:
Mike Belt
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It may hurt your feeling shooting a doe and finding out she had unborn young inside her but the bottom line is that irregardless of when you shot her, she would never have had them anyway.
landman
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catman529":3axd0mdj said:
Catman they have it that late cause most of the
Deer don't have horns, everyone thinks in does
being shot
Many hunters here don't think deer have dropped
horns that early even
AlabamaSwamper
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It's Monday through Friday. Right?
I doubt it will add a whole lot of deer to the stats if that is the case. Especially since most work and aren't going to take off to shoot does.
I doubt it will add a whole lot of deer to the stats if that is the case. Especially since most work and aren't going to take off to shoot does.
Mike Belt
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...and that late in the season most are already through hunting for the year. I really don't understand the logistics of that move myself.
catman529
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i don't know about your deer herd but most bucks around here hold into march and sometimes April. There's always a couple early droppers in December and January so one should be careful when shooting a doe in late season, regardless of extra 5 days hunting that will now be allowed.landman":1aw8ht2b said:
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Yea Twra likes a 100 doe limit in unit l. Seems stupid to me but what do I know. My father in law owned 20 acres in a good deer area but it was mainly small properties. He usually killed a good mature buck off of it every year. He hasn't killed a deer in it since unit l opens. Like a war over there in gun season. He just sold it. Can't even see a deer on it now.
TboneD
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AlabamaSwamper":3joi4sye said:
Exactly. I don't get why they went to the trouble of a change when you can already shoot three a day all season long. At least the change is only for private land. I'd like to see the doe limit for public land in Unit L cut back to one a day, at least during November when hunting pressure is high.
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catman529
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not a bad idea for gun season. 1 a day with all the pressure on most public land. Thanksgiving weekend puts a big dent in the deer herdTboneD":8xs470xv said:
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TboneD
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muddyboots":3fhf6jiy said:
But can you imagine how sweet it would be to be on a big lease in Unit L? Everyone around you can shoot all the does they want while your club let's em walk to keep on attracting bucks. Maybe that's why they added the doe days at the end of the season?
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TboneD":2f9euyin said:
Yep. That's exactly what we do on my best lease. Does with a bow only. We see lots of bucks. So I guess there is a plus. Lol
good times
Mike Belt
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Poser...I doubt it. We already close before the last day now. Truth be known, as much as I hunt I'm worn out by the close. If they cut out a week it wouldn't bother me.
callemquacktn
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I really think yall are some of the biggest conspiracy theorist I know of. Lol
I remember at the end of last season it being said that twra felt as if more does needed to die but the hunters had leveled off on kills meaning that hunters were killing all they was going to kill and it didn't matter if they raised the doe limit to 20 a day they still wasn't going to kill anymore does cause they was afraid to shoot a doe that might be being trailed by a buck. Adding a extra week of doe only at the end gives the guys who were passing up does waiting on that last buck to now kill a few more does without worry of messing up a chance on a buck. Making it private land only allows the guys managing their own land if they see a need to take off a few more does. Making it not public keeps the wmas from getting bombarded at the end by out of towners trying to add another deer to the freezer.
To me I see it as TWRA using it as a management tool and not a way the fill more freezers. I can see this actually working to a point as one of my good friends owns the local processing facility and the last 2 wks of the season total is usually a majority of does. This in turn will give guys 1 more week to buck hunt knowing they can kill does the last week in the doe only hunt.
I remember at the end of last season it being said that twra felt as if more does needed to die but the hunters had leveled off on kills meaning that hunters were killing all they was going to kill and it didn't matter if they raised the doe limit to 20 a day they still wasn't going to kill anymore does cause they was afraid to shoot a doe that might be being trailed by a buck. Adding a extra week of doe only at the end gives the guys who were passing up does waiting on that last buck to now kill a few more does without worry of messing up a chance on a buck. Making it private land only allows the guys managing their own land if they see a need to take off a few more does. Making it not public keeps the wmas from getting bombarded at the end by out of towners trying to add another deer to the freezer.
To me I see it as TWRA using it as a management tool and not a way the fill more freezers. I can see this actually working to a point as one of my good friends owns the local processing facility and the last 2 wks of the season total is usually a majority of does. This in turn will give guys 1 more week to buck hunt knowing they can kill does the last week in the doe only hunt.
fairchaser
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Poser":207bfiz3 said:
The rules contract says we hunt till the close of the season, so yes. The good part is that if we still need does, we can get them the last week which is better than carrying a deficit over till the next season. I think it could be great for the club to clean up out quota.
ratsnakeboogy
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Depredation permits are through the roof in many areas of Unit L. The decreased buck limit will definitely increase the doe harvest dramatically. I believe this to be a large factor in the decision to lower the buck limit to two.
Vermin93
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It seemed to me that TWRA really had little to nothing to do with it. It was proposed by TFWC commissioner Bill Cox, written up as an amendment, and then passed by TFWC the following day. Chuck Yoest was asked his opinion about it and he offered feedback. He noted that it may be counter to TFWC's objective to improve buck age structure because it might send more buck fawns and yearlings to their "demise".
catman529":39v8gpl2 said:
Kinda what I was thinking
Vermin93":2n0bkhs9 said:
Those Commissioners didn't hesitate the least bit when voting for it.
I think it was throwing a dog a bone response to the lower buck limit. just gives meat hunters a few extra days to kill another deer since they lost a buck tag. I wont be hunting deer that time of year personally
