I watched the 8pt all year last year and saw him hard horn late December. I can't identify the 10pt yet, he may be a new deer to the farm. He is heavy and he looks to be a 3 year old.
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I supspect him at 3.5 in 2014 making him 4.5 this year. He has been an 8 for the last 3 years for sure. I have som pics of him last year if I can I will post them tonight.