Trespassing

[gobblesandgrunts]

Grandparents said they seen two guys on a four wheeler yesterday on the family farm. We lease it to a guy that row crops it. They called him and he doesn't give anyone permission to hunt. Said no one should be there, I found two bucks last year that were shot and the horns cut off and they were left. I would love to catch them when I'm out there. I really despise someone that does that. It's like stealing and someone can't get much lower than a thief. There is plenty of public land to hunt. I'm afraid to even go out there now, afraid my cameras or stands, cards will be gone. Makes me sick to my stomach really.


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[csi-tech]

Re: Trespassing

We leased one of our farms to a guy for the purpose of livestock. They do not have the right to grant hunting privileges to ANYONE. That rests with the landowner or his designee. I would punt him quick, fast, and in a hurry. Our lessee 's horses tore up our cemetery fences. Buh bye.

 

[Andy S.]

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That rests with the landowner or his designee.

In my neck of the woods, most of the farming rights include hunting rights as well, negotiated and solidified by the farmer. Think about it, the farmer is who is about to make the landowner the money, thus he/she usually has the upper hand in negotiating the hunting rights as well. Not always, but that is the norm around my parts.

 

[Hunter 257W]

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How close does the closest family member live to the land? Reason I ask is that from my experience, land owner presence is the best deterrent to trespassing. If you are there every time a potential trespasser comes along to run them off, they'll be a lot less likely to come back.

How well do you know the farmer working the land? Do you believe him when he says that he hasn't given anyone permission to hunt? It could be somebody he has hired to help him at some time who then took it on themselves to slip back in and hunt just because they had driven a tractor there a couple of times. I know a guy who thinks like that near my farm. My lease for farming is just that - Farming only - no hunting rights. The farmer is saving a ton of money leasing land compared to buying it, so there is no need to grant hunting rights along with use of the land for growing a crop.

 

[Pic IN the Casa]

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My 'go to' statement regarding trespassing is that more people on here than you think believe YOUR land is theirs to do with what they want.

 

[MUP]

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I'm expecting to encounter a fellow and his son during this juvy season on my property. I had pics of them last season entering, then leaving my property just before my daughter and I arrived to hunt. They walked RIGHT by the POSTED signs on the way thru too. Contrary to what some people think, trespassing is still against the law, even if they're just teaching their kids how to do it.

 

[Atchman2]

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I have honestly accidentally walked onto a place where I didn't have permission to hunt. It was just a misunderstanding. The guy that gave me to go ahead and hunt. Well I didn't realize where the property line was located and wandered across. I met the "REAL" landowner on the way out. We were coyote hunting so we never stay anywhere very long. He was miffed a little, but I was able to calm him down. I just told him it was an honest mistake. There were no signs, no fence, nothing. We asked for forgiveness and he just told us not to come back.

 

[Atchman2]

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Another weird one. I hunt deer in a real subdivision. A lady lets me hunt basically in her back yard. Well the yard slopes steeply into a big gully. The gully is the property line. I showed up to hunt in my stand and see "NO TRESPASSING" signs everywhere. In fact one guy was on my game camera holding up the sign to it! In this case I KNEW where the property line was located and they had put the signs in my friend's yard!

I found the person that owned the other land. He is an attorney in Knoxville and I called his office. He had given permission to hunt to two guys. I've seen them walk in a bunch of times before. They just got too zealous with their signs. He told me to just move them back 20 feet or so back into his land. He was very nice and told me if I shot a deer and it ran on his place that I have his permission to get it.

 

[gobblesandgrunts]

Re: Trespassing

How close does the closest family member live to the land? Reason I ask is that from my experience, land owner presence is the best deterrent to trespassing. If you are there every time a potential trespasser comes along to run them off, they'll be a lot less likely to come back.

How well do you know the farmer working the land? Do you believe him when he says that he hasn't given anyone permission to hunt? It could be somebody he has hired to help him at some time who then took it on themselves to slip back in and hunt just because they had driven a tractor there a couple of times. I know a guy who thinks like that near my farm. My lease for farming is just that - Farming only - no hunting rights. The farmer is saving a ton of money leasing land compared to buying it, so there is no need to grant hunting rights along with use of the land for growing a crop.

Oh my grandparents still live on the farm, and the farmer that Leases it is a very trustworthy and honest person. He lets no one hunt it not even his family.


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[gobblesandgrunts]

Re: Trespassing

I'm expecting to encounter a fellow and his son during this juvy season on my property. I had pics of them last season entering, then leaving my property just before my daughter and I arrived to hunt. They walked RIGHT by the POSTED signs on the way thru too. Contrary to what some people think, trespassing is still against the law, even if they're just teaching their kids how to do it.

Oh I know, I've had posted signs up and it does no good whatsoever. My grandmother has dementia and it really tears her up too. People have no decency. And I understand if it's a simple mistake but anyone around here knows this is our farm. It's not a high profile lease and there aren't many deer but it's ours and I put time in here for deer hunting. Just makes me pretty ill


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[gator-n-buck]

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Well..... It's up to the hunter to know where they are at and take the time to learn the property before going hunting. Just because trespassing signs aren't posted doesn't mean it's legal to hunt an area. Yes, accidents do happened but hunters need to take extra steps to be in the right. On the other hand poachers/trespassers are individuals that don't care and give hunters a bad name.

 

[gobblesandgrunts]

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Well..... It's up to the hunter to know where they are at and take the time to learn the property before going hunting. Just because trespassing signs aren't posted doesn't mean it's legal to hunt an area. Yes, accidents do happened but hunters need to take extra steps to be in the right. On the other hand poachers/trespassers are individuals that don't care and give hunters a bad name.

Completely agree with you buddy


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[Old cull buck hunter]

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The way I deal with trespassers depends on their attitude and if it is a repeat offender.

 

[FTG-05]

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The way I deal with trespassers depends on their attitude and if it is a repeat offender.

I got rid of the so-called "hunters" on the property next to me after they (very aggressively) trespassed on me for the third time. I really tried to work with them, but it takes two to tango.

 

[gobblesandgrunts]

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The way I deal with trespassers depends on their attitude and if it is a repeat offender.

I got rid of the so-called "hunters" on the property next to me after they (very aggressively) trespassed on me for the third time. I really tried to work with them, but it takes two to tango.

Only problem is I live 25 min away and my grandparents are at the age where they can't really get iyt and monitor the property anymore. Thought about a cell camera but can't drop 275$ on one of those right now


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[Hunter 257W]

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I completely understand your frustration. We're never going to completely keep trespassers off our property. I can understand the accidental type where property lines are in the middle of the woods with no physical markings at all but the people who knowingly cross through fences and hunt are without excuse. About all I can suggest is to hunt it as much as you can this year and keep your schedule very random so the trespassers can't pattern you. I'd be hesitant to put an expensive camera up that could get stolen. Odd are that the pictures you'd get wouldn't be clear enough to identify anybody anyhow.

 

[gobblesandgrunts]

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I completely understand your frustration. We're never going to completely keep trespassers off our property. I can understand the accidental type where property lines are in the middle of the woods with no physical markings at all but the people who knowingly cross through fences and hunt are without excuse. About all I can suggest is to hunt it as much as you can this year and keep your schedule very random so the trespassers can't pattern you. I'd be hesitant to put an expensive camera up that could get stolen. Odd are that the pictures you'd get wouldn't be clear enough to identify anybody anyhow.

Yeah small town and everyone knows I work everyday through the week. Really sucks, but maybe I can catch them one day


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[FTG-05]

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Only problem is I live 25 min away and my grandparents are at the age where they can't really get it and monitor the property anymore. Thought about a cell camera but can't drop 275$ on one of those right now

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What I've always heard about keeping trespassers off seldom visited property is to find a local LEO that likes to hunt and give him permission. Supposedly word gets out pretty fast and the trespassers stay away.

The other "advice" I've heard is if you can't find a cop who likes to hunt, find the biggest and meanest local poacher and give him permission. He'll them keep trespassers off, typically by "any means necessary" (not sure I want to know what that means).

Have no clue if either of these work, but I thought I'd mention them.

Good luck!

 

[gobblesandgrunts]

Re: Trespassing

Only problem is I live 25 min away and my grandparents are at the age where they can't really get it and monitor the property anymore. Thought about a cell camera but can't drop 275$ on one of those right now

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What I've always heard about keeping trespassers off seldom visited property is to find a local LEO that likes to hunt and give him permission. Supposedly word gets out pretty fast and the trespassers stay away.

The other "advice" I've heard is if you can't find a cop who likes to hunt, find the biggest and meanest local poacher and give him permission. He'll them keep trespassers off, typically by "any means necessary" (not sure I want to know what that means).

Have no clue if either of these work, but I thought I'd mention them.

Good luck!

Well appreciate it. May find someone to monitor it


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