Will a reprint suffice?Contact ATF and request a reprint. Outlined on their site. I never take my original out of the safe though
Will a reprint suffice?Contact ATF and request a reprint. Outlined on their site. I never take my original out of the safe though
The one time I had to provide proof was to a LEO and it was just a copy. I can't speak to everyone and everything but in that particular instance it worked for me. In talking with other folks who have them over the years, it's how they roll as well. That said, I think the regulation states you have to have the stamp. Who knows honestly... It's the government, they want you in trouble, you're in trouble...Will a reprint suffice?
It has happened before. I dont recall many details because it wasnt in TN, but the BATFE had reason to believe a man was using oil filters as suppressors. They confiscated cases of filters the man had at his home.There has been a lot An oil filter makes a pretty good suppressor. I'd like to see them confiscate a box full of oil filters because...
Huh. $200 for a PDF. For that money I want the pretty stamp.So...just communicated with a BATFE agent. Apparently they are no longer issuing physical stamps to e-file approvals. They email you a pdf, and you need to print it, or have a device (phone or tablet) with a copy of the approved stamped transfer pdf on it.
Just my take, (and I've been dealing with NFA since the early 80's), I would have a couple of paper copies with me whenever any NFA registered device was with me, and a copy on your phone as well if you feel the need.
This is just my opinion, not legal advice. And worth what you paid for it.
Interested in this as well. I just talked to a FFL dealer and he said that they are only considered illegal if they have a hole in them?Did the agents come inside your home? Did they threaten you with arrest if you didn't give them your 'traps'? Had you filed a Form 1?
There has been a lot of discussion about this on other boards. I just wonder if they would come back with a search warrant if you didn't allow them in and told them to pound sand. If what you had was a bunch of parts that one day could be assembled as a suppressor, I'm not sure what they did is legal. An oil filter makes a pretty good suppressor. I'd like to see them confiscate a box full of oil filters because they one day could be converted into a suppressor.
Since the ATF makes it up as they go lots of times I can see them saying that a solvent trap that's threaded 1/2x28 WITHOUT an exit hole is "intent to construct" if the law abiding citizen also has weapon barrels that are threaded 1/2x28.Interested in this as well. I just talked to a FFL dealer and he said that they are only considered illegal if they have a hole in them?
BATFE considers a single part of a suppressor to be a suppressor by itself (with a couple of exceptions like the barrel mount or a non-wiped endcap that changes the diameter of the exit hole).Interested in this as well. I just talked to a FFL dealer and he said that they are only considered illegal if they have a hole in them?
Those were the original and genuine "solvent traps", and they were made to actually capture cleaning solvent.I don't own either a solvent trap or a suppressor, but what I picture, when thinking of a solvent trap, is like I've seen on the Midway commercials that looks just like a plastic water bottle. How could that be considered anything remotely close to a suppressor is what I keep wondering?
It's the totality of the circumstances, intent, and marketing. Much like "possession of burglary tools" or "Possession of tools to interfere with anti-theft security devices". Intent would need to be shown. It was determined by the BATF that the company that got busted selling solvent traps was marketing them as silencers. So they went to the buyers and asked them to turn them over. You could tell them to go get a warrant, you could tell them to go pound sand. But it costs them nothing to charge you with a felony, and you have the legal costs of getting an attorney whether you win your case or not.I don't own either a solvent trap or a suppressor, but what I picture, when thinking of a solvent trap, is like I've seen on the Midway commercials that looks just like a plastic water bottle. How could that be considered anything remotely close to a suppressor is what I keep wondering?
So...just communicated with a BATFE agent.
Communication wasnt with a low level agent.After working many, many joint cases with ATF, let me say to never take the advice of a field agent. If it is something low level, maybe. Something serious, get it in writing.
There have been too many times when I had to explain their own laws to them. The worst was a BATF Form 5320.20 form, allowing NFA items to cross state lines. They had no idea what it was.