Same deer?
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Different deer IMO but more than likely same genetics but wouldn't be unheard of one traveling that far
I vote that it's the same deer.
Shed Hunter
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Same deer. One mile isn't far at all.
Mr.Bro
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I got maybe 20 pics of look a li0ke 8pts. All of them have at least 1 identical some maybe 3 or 4 that are identical. Unless you have something other than velvet covered antlers to look at, maybe a split ear or a body scar, then looking at 80 to 90 in 8 pointers almost impossible to guess they are the same deer.
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From what I can see on my phone- it looks like the same buck.
That's a little further than I'd expect them to travel this time of the year too.
Some guys say they stop moving as much when hunting pressure increases, others claim they'll travel further because of it. One things for certain- if there's plenty of acorns around, they won't move nearly as far in comparison.
Is that buck one you plan on shooting? How old do you think he is?
That's a little further than I'd expect them to travel this time of the year too.
Some guys say they stop moving as much when hunting pressure increases, others claim they'll travel further because of it. One things for certain- if there's plenty of acorns around, they won't move nearly as far in comparison.
Is that buck one you plan on shooting? How old do you think he is?
His G3 on right side has a hard hook and his bases are fat with brows starting very low. Both bucks show the same traits so im better than 50% it's same buck.
Same leaning
He looks very heavy for this time of year, so I think he's atleast 3.5yr old. I'll definitely shoot him, unless he shrinks out of velvet
Looks the same to me
Acorn Goat
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Different 1st buck right g3 is bent hard and almost flush with g2. 2nd bucks G3's are definitely shorter
@fulldraw
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Same buck. The angle makes the tine curvatures appear different. Brows appear to have same straightness.
BSK
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Different camera angles will hide specific traits. If these are not the same buck, they have nearly identical antler configurations. But I would need clearer pictures to say with a lot of confidence.
JCDEERMAN
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Likely same deer. Interestingly enough, we just had one of our mature deer go on a 1 mile walkabout on the same day (8/13). Had him on both cameras the same day
Pretty normal in my experience. Not for certain but Iit always seemed to me that they were out taking inventory of which does are around and what has changed in their range.
An unrelated but similar phenomenon that happens just before is second tier does come home with their new fawns to regroup. The matriarch always seems to stay home and takes the best fawning cover, forcing the other does to disperse out to find their own fawning cover. Then in late summer they all come home with their half grown fawns to rejoin the family as a unit.
It's shortly afterwards that I see bucks take their late summer excursion. So just through a matter of deduction I assume they are taking inventory not only of which does are still around but also any new ones. No idea if that's correct or not as it's just an observation.
BSK
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VERY observant Ski! Yes, this is exactly what happens. In a doe social group, fawning territories are chosen by doe dominance, with the most dominant doe getting the best habitat. Choice then moves down the dominance list. Lowest does on the dominance hierarchy may have to leave the social groups territory to find adequate fawning habitat. MOST of these low-status does "return to the fold" with their fawn(s) in tow in late August or early September. However, some don't. They stay in their fawn range and start their own social group. This is the only way to move up in status, and it is the process by which doe dispersal works.
Interesting idea. I'll have to look for this in my photo censuses.
WTNBowHunter
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This is what I'm thinking too but more angles of both deer would help confirm any unique antler developments. 1 mile isn't far for deer to travel but if both areas have plenty of food/water/cover & low stress then I'm less likely to think they are the same deer. I killed a buck four years ago from a stand that was right at a mile south of where I got him on camera
BSK
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I've been watching a particular 9-point that has only been photographed in the SE corner of my property. However, camera pull today found him dead center of the property AND in the far NW corner, which is 1 1/4 miles as the crow flies, and far more than that walking.
They cover a lot of ground. This is also around the time I begin seeing bucks taking walkabouts. They do it all summer really but I notice the bulk of it between August 15 and September 15, pretty much as horns harden. Just in last two days I've seen 4 big rack bucks that I've not seen since last fall, and will be surprised if I see them again until mid October.
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Savage
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I once had a buck on Catoosa with a broke right main beam and clean 4 on the other side, show up the same night 2.75 miles apart as the crow flies.
I killed a deer a few years ago on Thanksgiving morning, that I had pics of 8 miles away on The first Saturday in November.
I killed a deer a few years ago on Thanksgiving morning, that I had pics of 8 miles away on The first Saturday in November.
When I was a young boy I'd walk 2mi to the store to buy a coke and candy. During summer I'd walk the railroad searching the dig outs for big snapping turtles because the store owner would trade me the coke and candy for a stew turtle. Once an adolescent but not old enough to drive my friends and I would walk everywhere, covering many miles daily. And when hunting it's no big deal to walk several miles.
So for an adult deer with 4 healthy legs it shouldn't be a surprise when they cover many, many miles. In fact I'd guess it's a lot more common than the bucks who barely leave a small area. A few miles is nothing for a deer.
I was thinking the same thing.
East TN Bowhunter
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GumbyGuy
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Choot'em
If they were on the place last fall then they'll show up at some point this summer whether you catch them on camera or not, and if they liked what they seen (girls) they'll be back this fall. The 4 bucks I posted about haven't been back, and the one who was away is now back. So weird how it works out like that but it happens every year. Come October & November the resident buck will be gone and all those other bucks plus others will be hanging around for me to hunt. After years of watching this pattern unfold I can almost predict before season even opens which buck I'll likely be killing.
