Round-up Ready

[AlabamaSwamper]

Anyone planting this?

We have several plots that I thought about trying this in. Probably 3-4 acres total. Not a whole lot and it may not come up since they'll probably eat it before it does but......I thought about trying it.

Is it very expensive to plant and can it be broadcasted or does it need to be row planted?

 

[Chaneylake]

roundup ready soybeans is one of the easiest, cheapest, ways to go. i have been gathering info the past 2 days from the larger farmers in the Brownsville, Tn area, as to what they have done in the past. one farmer told me yesterday, the following: roundup ready soybean, $37.00 per 50 lb sack. rate is roughly 70 lbs per acre, this depends upon whether you are doing rows or broadcast, with broadcast, he recommended an extra 5 lbs per acre. he also stated that it would not make any difference since it was a food plot and not going to be harvested.

if you have the proper equipment, then no-til is by far the easiest and best. with using roundup ready seed, one will have many options as when to spray roundup.

For no-til the very best option is as follows:

burn down area approx. 30 days before plant time with roundup

rate is approx 32 oz per acre, this depends upon whether you are using the original roundup or the later weather max type.

at plant time, plant and apply roundup at the same time. this application of roundup can be skipped if your plot is still clean at plant time.

as your plot is growing and you run into a weed/grass problem, then you can spray roundup over the top to help keep plot clean. note: there are some weeds that are now roundup resistant, so you might not be able to keep plot 100% clean

roundup will cost approx. $5.00/acre on the 1 qt rate +/-

one good option that you have with roundup ready soybeans is that you do not have to spray if they are staying clean.

for conventionl plant, tearing up ground, for row plant or browdcast, do the following

burn down with roundup approx 30 days pryor to discing, this will make discing a lot easier.

disc/prepare gound for planting. remember, the more you disc, the more moisture you are going to loose, and you are going to bring new weed/grass seed to the surface.

plant or broadcast area. approx 70 lb seed to the acre. if you broadcast, then use the easiest method that you have to get seed covered.

as your plot grows, monitor and apply 1 qt. of roundup per acre as needed.

the farmer that i talked to yesterday, said to forget the lime, soil test crap.

fertilizer is each ones option, the farmers in my area do not apply very much nitrogen.

the main thing that i am hearing right now is the availablity of roundup ready soybean seed for this spring. some of the farmers are thinking it is a scare tactic to drive up the price of seed.

i highly recommend buying your seed now.

 

[BSK]

Just remember you are never supposed to use Round-up more than twice per year in any given field. Using Round-up too often is how weeds will become Round-up resistant.

 

[Chaneylake]

i was under the impression that all of the weeds that are becoming round-up resistant, got that way from drift to other areas and from weak doses applied, after the drift or weak/mild applications occur, plant get sick/weak, mother nature kicks in, plant comes back healthy and roundup resistant.

just like the common cold!

it might be more of a problem caused by farmers/monsanto chemical when they were applying roundup at 1/2 rate to save money.

it is becoming a larger and larger problem each year.

my sunflower fields to no-til in the spring have to be sprayed with a tank mix of round-up and valor or similar type chemical.

every spring is different, you never know what one is going to get

 

[BSK]

It's Natural Selection. If it is used regularly, a few individual plants--just by shear genetic chance--live through it. Those that live, pass on their genetic code to the next generation, and so on until resistence increases. Of course this will be exaggerated by improper dosing (too low), but still, the more often you use it, the great the chance of naturally creating resistant plants.

That's how we now have antibiotic resistent bacteria--too frequent of use. Eventually, some bacteria live and pass on their resitence to the next generation, eventually concentrating resistence.

 

[Chaneylake]

all so true, BSK,

i talked to 3 area farmers on phone this pm. these guys farm from 1500 to 8000 acres each. they are the ones that i am always picking their brain about what to do and what is new. in a normal year, their application of round-up is 3 applications per growing season. original round-up 32 oz per application. weather max round-up 22 oz per application. from seminars that they have attended in the past, the main problem has risen from drift at the ends of rows as they are turning around. none of them stated any new resistant plants for 08. info on this might not be out yet.

 

[Soybean Man]

You also need to keep in mind, that resistant weeds are few and far between. There are very few cases and mainly in fields that have had 3 applications a year or more for at least 15 years. These are fields with heavy weed pressure to begin with. Just because a farmer is having trouble in Georgia does not mean that I will in Arkansas if I follow the label directions. What gets most folks in trouble is trying to kill weeds when they are a foot tall and should have sprayed at 2-4 inches like the label states. Roundup is a wonderful product and has taken a lot of the guesswork out of scouting for weeds, and therefore gets abused. Trying to kill 4 foot johnsongrass at heading and calling it resistant is not true. Some weeds are just more tolerant at later stages of growth.

 

[Chaneylake]

so true Soybean Man, sometimes it is just too much to explain.

would you be interested in starting a new topic, covering the "groups of soybeans" it might help some of the people on this site, in deciding as what to plant, and what kind of zone they will have. all of this is real easy to me and i understand all of it with very little info given. still willing to learn though.

thanks

 

[farmin68]

You also need to keep in mind, that resistant weeds are few and far between.

Roundup-resistant marestail is very common here in west TN. I don't know any farmers around that don't have issues with it.

One farmer tells me he's starting to see some cocklebur that is resistant in Benton Co.

 

[Chaneylake]

there will be more and more round-up resistant plants, the more that they use the product, it is still the best on the market for the dollar spent, basically clean 1 acre for $5.00 and be ready to no-til. only in america!

 

[Soybean Man]

There are about 5 weed species on the hit list for resistance and a lot of research being done to confirm these(marestail, waterhemp, ragweed, pigweed,and johnongrass for ex.) Compared to the total number of weed species that glyphosate will control, this is a drop in the bucket. Good thing for soybean farmers it that there are a lot of herbicides labeled for use. Resistance and resistance management will be with us from here on out. We are currently working with new herbicide technologies for soybean coming to the market soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chaneylake]

thats great Soybean Man, please keep us informed, i remember when the round-up ready was first being used in our area, everyone was making the statement that the round-up ready stuff is so good that even the bad farmers have a clean crop this year

thanks for the info.

 

[8 POINTS OR BETTER]

Soybean Man its great to have you post on this forum. Which soybean of yours would be the best for poor dry soils?

 

[Chaneylake]

do not know if soybean man will agree with this, i had a farmer to tell me today that group 5 soybeans are best, especially during dry conditions, they have a longer growing zone, i am just starting to learn about what they call group soybeans, anyway this farmer that lives close to me, stated today, that his group 5 soybeans performed better than any other of his beans, although, none really did very well in 07 drought conditions in southwest tennessee