Range time results

[cecil30-30]

I finally got out and tried the 290gr Barnes TEZ bullets out today. They load pretty easy but not as easy as the Hornady FPB or the TC superglide's do. So I started out with 100grs of blackhorn and shot a 3 shot group. It wasn't what I was hopeing for so I shot another 3 shot group of 110grs of powder,still not what I was wanting,I tried 120grs,and shot 2 shots and they both hit about 6inches from each other and I knew that was not good,so I didn't attempt a 3rd shot.

So I lowered it down to 90grs of powder and got a pretty decent 3 shot group,its not as tight as the 250gr TC super Glide sabots shoot but its not too bad. What do you guys think about the 90gr group? Is it good enough for hunting? Or would you try and see what it does with 80grs of powder?

The Super glides with 100grs of blackhorn @ 100yds disregard the shots off target

90grs of blackhorn with the TEZ 290gr barnes the 3 shots in the red box

100grs of blackhorn with the TEZ 290gr barnes

110grs of blackhorn with the TEZ 290gr barnes 1 shot was off target to the right

 

[knightrider]

the 300 superglides shot better for me than the 250, but all those are minute of deer killing

 

[quigleysharps4570]

Access to any different powder?

 

[cecil30-30]

Access to any different powder?

Yea if I bought some,I really like the blackhorn though,its so easy to clean up and almost no smoke.

 

[Boone 58]

i like the first group. What kind of results did you achieve with the Fpb's?

 

[ShaneHallum]

It wouldn't hurt to lower the powder to 80-85grs. Can you find some heavier bullets to even out the high powder charge you were shooting?

 

[cecil30-30]

i like the first group. What kind of results did you achieve with the Fpb's?

I tried shooting blackhorn with the FPB's but I couldn't get them to shoot well with it.But you put 2 50gr pellets of Triple 7 and you get results like this all day long.

 

[bigfoot318]

I had similar results with Barnes bullets in my Savage smokeless muzzleloader. I am no expert but I have tried almost every bullet/load combo out there and found the 325 grain Hornady FTX bullets in .458 diameter work fantastic. The .458 diameter bullets are typically used to reload the 45/70 rifle cartridge.

I didn't know this but I guess the increased accuracy has to do with the increase (although slight) in the diameter of the bullet. All I know is I have shot the Hornadys at targets and have shot deer with them and am very impressed. I made a believer out of a friend of mine. He tried other bullets in his new Encore and got results similar to yours. He tried my bullets and shot an honest to goodness 1" 3-shot group at 200 yards. All three were touching the bullseye. Needless to say he bought some Hornadys and that is what he hunts with.

I got my information listed below from the Randy Wakeman website. He tests Savage rifles pretty extensively out to 200+ yards.

"The strongest sabot is the MMP Orange .458 / 50 sabot. It is often the most accurate sabot, as its thinner petals promote a fast, clean release from the bullet. They are readily available from http://mmpsabots.com .

An accurate and affordable bullet is the Hornady #4500 300 grain hollow point. It is a .45-70 (.458) bullet that has taken most everything that can be taken. Its static B.C. is .197 with a sectional density of .204. They go for about $20 for a box of 50 bullets: quite a bargain in 2010.


The Barnes Original #457010 Semi-Spitzer Flat Base .458 is the best flying 300 grain .45 bullet I've found. Its published BC is .291. It also has a very tough, .032 in. thick jacket-- ideal for anything, but especially good for heavier, tougher animals. I've used it on everything from pronghorn to Russian boar and large bears. With either of these bullets, you use the same MMP Orange .458 / 50 sabot."

bigfoot318

 

[Boone 58]

i will take that any day!

 

[HOOK]

The Super glides with 100grs of blackhorn @ 100yds looks good.
2" high at that range is what you need.

 

[Boone 58]

Very good!!!