Predator gun?

[bradshaw34]

.22-250 or .243. Which one has better accuracy and knockdown power. And which ammo is more expensive?

 

[stik]

223. about halfway between and ammo is cheaper.

 

[bradshaw34]

I went to look at guns and was planning on getting a savage 111 in .243. But the H&R was around $100 less with a camo stock(good things) but its a single shot(bad thing). I've never needed a quick followup shot on a deer but coyotes are usually moving and i would be more comfortable with a bolt action. The H&R was available in .223 .22-250 and .243. They also had Mossberg with wood stock in .243 and bolt action and their version of accutrigger(good things). What do you think?

 

[mike243]

i picked the 243 myself,neither can keep up with the 243 after a little distance,coarse you can put 100g bullets in the 243 & deer hunt so to me its a year round calibur,mike243

 

[Anonymous]

My pick is a bolt action 308. You can tone it down for coyotes as well as have a ample deer round. I think its the all around perfect caliber. The cost and selecttion for ammo is great and accuracy is world know.

 

[mike243]

almost as much as the 6mm for long range shooting ,mike243

 

[THE ONE]

A CZ 527 in .223 works pretty good and they are very accurate shooting guns, also the remington R-15 is pretty sweet to!

 

[cecil30-30]

If your strapped for cash,the Stevens model 200 is fairly cheap,its not pretty but I hear it good things about it..You can get it any most any caliber also.

 

[bradshaw34]

This has been a tough decision. I'm leaning towards the savage in .243 with accutrigger, although the mossberg is pretty much the same, the bolt on the mossberg was too loose when i pulled it back. Thanks for the help guys, now i'm off to go pickup my new gun.

 

[Hillbilly Hunter]

22-250

 

[varmint1111]

mossberg is not even close to a savage !!! and cal. you can shoot well will be best. good luck.

 

[TNbullet1]

I shoot a Savage 223. Great gun. Keep in mind it has a 1 in 9 twist and does better with 55 to 69 grain loads. And ammo is cheaper unless you're loading your own.

 

[taximan]

I am now using a 243 on my optima elite for our coyotes up here. I shooting 85 grain bullets and them seem to work great!

 

[tngreg]

My 80's model Remmington 700
6mm Remington/244 has sent many a yote home...

 

[bradshaw34]

Thanks for the help guys. I finally decided on the gun its a Savage model 93 17hmr with a floated bull barrel accutrigger and a bushnell 3-9x40 scope. I also added a Shooters Ridge bipod. Total cost with a Hoppe's rimfire cleaning kit was $395. I took it to the range and (with a caldwell lead sled) shot around 1/2" 3 shot groups at 125 yds using hornady v-max bullets in 17 grain (i plan on using cci hollow points for hunting). I then shot 4 rounds with my bipod, while sitting and using a bench for a rest, they were at around a 3 inch spread. I'm planning on going to my lease this weekend and doing a field test.

 

[THE ONE]

congrats! Good luck this weekend!

 

[Kimberman]

I dont consider the 17HMR an adequate predator round, but YMMV.

 

[10mm4me]

yeah, whats up? Good squirrel gun but you could have done ALOT better for predators. What happened to the 22-250----.243 debate, JMO

 

[Bertman]

good choice

 

[spitndrum]

I shoot a 204 Ruger!

 

[Locksley]

My pick is a bolt action Winchester M-70 with varmint weight barrell in 243 I picked the 243 myself,neither can keep up with the 243 after a little distance,of coarse you can put 100g bullets in the 243 Winchester & deer hunt so to me its a year round caliber that I can practice on with yotes and then deer hunt with in the fall.
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[woodchuckc]

My 17HMR is the most accurate rifle I own (at least out to 100 yards, which is the furthest I have shot it), but I consider it too light a round for coyotes. Great for possums, armadillos, groundhogs and the like, but I think you will find you wound a lot of coyotes with it instead of putting them down. Also a crosswind really blows those light bullets around, especially at longer distances, which can significantly affect bullet placement that will be crucial for your ability to put down a coyote.

As others have said, a 223 would be better suited (ballistically) for coyotes and cheap ammo lets you get a lot of range time in to really tune your marksmanship. I love my 22-250, but it is more expensive to shoot and with hot loads you will see a decrease in accuracy after a few thousand rounds.

 

[fastbs]

of the 2 in the original post i vote 243.

 

[Locksley]

223. about halfway between and ammo is cheaper.

yep

I have an older 700 in a 22-250 i love it shoots great i have 6-25x50 on it

I love the ballistics of this round, and you can't beat a 700 at least of the guns I've compared them too. I just worry about the cost and availability of the ammo vs the .223.

The r15 would be the better choice depending on which cal. you choose.

The sps is alot cheaper and still a very nice gun.

If it was me.. I would get the sps in .223 and still be able to put a good scope and bipod on it, for the price of the r15 without a scope.

I wouldn't go with that sps... absolutely no reason to go with a gun that heavy... I couldn't find a weight on it but if you go with a bolt gun it's hard to beat the LVSF... I have 3 of 'em and the .223 I get 3/8" 5 shot groups @ 100 yds. It only weighs 6 3/4 lbs. In coyote hunting you're not going to shoot enough times to need a heavy barrel, just more weight for you to carry...I'm guessing it has to go 10 or 11 lbs. I recently quit carrying an AR... just personal preference, I really like the bolt guns. The AR is an accurate gun for sure...the bolt gun will make you more careful when you pull the trigger though.

I have a Winchester M-70 IN 220 SWIFT and a Remington M-40 in 222 Magnum and both are good for varmint hunting . A Ruger M-77 in 220 Swift , 22/250 223 0r 222 Remington would be good also.

For a coyote rifle that is a no brainer. R15 all the way. PH

That's what I was thinking. Thanks

I think either one would be a good choice.

I have an older 700 in a 22-250 I love it shoots great I have 6-25x50 on it

YEA either one of these would be a good choice. I have a Winchester M-70 Varment barrell rifle in 220 Swift and I have a 15 power Unertal scope on it , that was my favorite varmint rifle.

YEA either one of these would be a good choice. I have a Winchester M-70 Varment barrell rifle in 220 Swift and I have a 15 power Unertal scope on it , that was my favorite varmint rifle.

 

[1 good shot]

i really hate to hear of anyone using a 17 hmr for coyotes
they don't die easy
more than a few times i put 240 grain 444 through their chest and they still try to run of--- not for long but they still try
on something as small as a coyote that 444 leaves a hole you can put a softball in
if you're going use that small a bullet and you want a clean humane kill you're going to have to put it right through the brain and if you've hunted them before you know you almost never get a shot at one standing still so practice practice practice
on moving targets if you can

 

[mathews338]

i really hate to hear of anyone using a 17 hmr for coyotes
they don't die easy
more than a few times i put 240 grain 444 through their chest and they still try to run of--- not for long but they still try
on something as small as a coyote that 444 leaves a hole you can put a softball in
if you're going use that small a bullet and you want a clean humane kill you're going to have to put it right through the brain and if you've hunted them before you know you almost never get a shot at one standing still so practice practice practice
on moving targets if you can

i have shot several while deer hunting with my 338 and it blows holes in them big enough to throw a cabbage head through and they still run sometimes

 

[huntinman]

223