Pee phobia?

[Football Hunter]

Tried the peeing in scraps idea several years ago and the scraps have never been visited by a deer since. Won't do it again. Just seems that if we work so hard at scent control that we would intentionally pee near where we hunt.

Never happened to me,they always use em once I pee in them

 

[BSK]

Also, I have definitely seen MANY more negative responses from mature does, than ANY bucks, who tend to more closely examine the pee during rutty times.

In my experiences, does show the least interest in human urine. They sniff it and ignore it. If a deer shows any interest at all, it's usually a buck. I've had mature does (with fawns in tow) eat acorns under my tree that were still steaming from my warm piss on a cold morning.

 

[bowriter]

102-Well, I would say most of my deer are within 30-yards. I think my longest shot last year was about 60-yards. Most of the deer I hunt get about as much pressure as any other deer around here. They are hunted on all property surrounding me and for several days in a row. They work on them pretty good around the opening of every season type. As for hot dry, I reckon it is about as hot dry here as it is 40 miles away. I've never kept track of the weather when I pee cause not much I can do about that.

I tend to think if you take guys, gals or a mixture and hunt a specific piece of ground hard for a condensed period of time, just about anything including a hawk flying over will have a negative impact.

As for your group, I have no answer unless they climb down and walk around looking for a good place to pee. Course, the other possibility is, they aren't seeing any deer whether they pee or not and that gives them something to blame it on.

I dunno. Seems like the concensus is, peeing don't hurt and can help. I can sell you some of my pee if you want to try sprinkling it from a tree and see what happens. I can have cup and 1/2-pint sizes ready to ship an a couple days. A quart may take most of a month.

 

[Andy S.]

A quart may take most of a month.

:grin:

 

[bowriter]

I once, many years ago, ran the risk of getting my danglies caught in my bow string. However, it was a more than average buck so I took the chance.

My safety harness belt is exctly six inches longer than the front of my tree stand. I may have stretched it a bit on the rebound.

The buck easily topped 130. It takes great concentration to hold the bow still and release the string when you run that possibility.

 

[102]

bowriter,
You are hilarious.

And the golden arches comment made earlier is also hysterical, I spewed my water on that one.

I dunno, maybe we aren't seeing enough deer in our group. Last season, my son and I only arrowed 17 deer, including a few really mature public land bucks. His biggest.

Our group had a P/Y in Illinois, and several mature does and bucks. I am not sure of the exact total we arrowed, but I am sure that between the 5 I speak with most frequently, and including my son and I for a total of 7 hunters, all peeing in a bottle, we managed to kill 40 deer (just off the top of my head). I would be afraid to say how many we saw. But in two days, ONE of my buddies and I saw a total of AT LEAST EIGHTY deer on two sits each in two different locations.

Maybe this season we SHOULD "let 'er fly". But then, we have ALL already done our own independent three year study with NEGATIVE results.

On a similar note, I have also watched deer show VERY negative reactions to coyote AND bobcat pee. Right after I watched a coyote void and on another hunt, a bobcat.

Come to think of it, these deer were probably smelling where the cat, or yote, walked. Similarly, it may be that deer are also walking up, and smelling the pee below our stand, and getting a whiff of sweat or shoes in the vicinity of the pee at the base of my tree. HMMMMM?

Side-note...I once pissed off the stand on a VERY cold, windy evening. Somehow, it hit my bow rope on the way down.
It took forever to lower my bow because I had to break the icy rope before I could attach the rope.

 

[bowriter]

Yeah, that's the problem. You guys just are not seeing the deer to start with. I'll start saving you some pee. Forty deer for seven hunters is not that good an average when you put IL in the mix. I have seen 80 in one field at one time.

However, I am having trouble understanding what that has to do with peeing. I killed nine last year peed all over myself. You are not going to like old age. You danglies shrink to no bigger than an ear of corn and you end up peeing all over your hand.

That is where the Indian's name came from. Chief Yellow Hand. But I know for a fact, he killed a lot of deer and who knows how many buffler. One time, I watched him run an entire herd off a bluff.

Sorry forgot, this TnDeer I meant to say an entire heard.

 

[102]

LOL. Really. Now my family is looking over my shoulder.

Danglies withered to the size of an ear of corn. (I would hate to have that problem)

I hear ya about the Chief Yellow Hand.

Maybe you better put me on the list for a bottle of JSP after all.

In the mean time, I'll just continue hunting downwind of the deer, that are down wind of the hunters, who Pee freely.

 

[102]

BTW John, and BSK,
Best I can remember, this is maybe the only thing I just don't see eye to eye with you two. Except with John who I completely disagree about how to treat a gut shot deer. If I were half Indian,(and I believe bowriter MUST be to track like he does) I might push these gut shot animals, but I am not, so I will always let them lay.

But having differences is probably a good thing. Keeps things honest and not so boring.

 

[bowriter]

I asm not half Indian. I am three-quarters. 1/4 quarter Sioux, 1/4 Cheyenne, 1/4 Fuokawee and 1/4 Coonasse. Daddy was a travelin man with a taste for Cajun food. BSK is of the Geolistic band of the Rockmeer tribe. They are the ones who invented the quaking asprins trees. They were formerly a mixture of beech and maple until the great earth tremeble of 1444. That is when Tam Apo allowed earth mother to crawl our of the ground.

 

[Coach]

Better get your meds today while you're out BW...ha

 

[bigtex]

Funniest thread i've read in years!!
My wife thought i'd gone crazy when she heard [herd] me laughing in here [hear] by myself.
BTW, I at one time carried a bottle to pee in. When you get my age it's more trouble than it's worth. Now I just let er rip. [dribble]

 

[BSK]

BTW John, and BSK,
Best I can remember, this is maybe the only thing I just don't see eye to eye with you two.

I say go with what your research indicates is the best practice. If you believe peeing from the stand is decreasing your deer sighting rates, then don't pee from the stand. Again, urine can carry an amazing number of chemicals, and I strongly suspect each person's urine will smell different to a deer.

How many people realize that 50% of the DEET they spray on their skin comes out in their urine over the next 48 hours? I'll guarantee you deer can smell that.

 

[moondawg]

I asm not half Indian. I am three-quarters. 1/4 quarter Sioux, 1/4 Cheyenne, 1/4 Fuokawee and 1/4 Coonasse.

Now that is some kind of pedigree.

BSK is of the Geolistic band of the Rockmeer tribe. They are the ones who invented the quaking asprins trees. .

Not to mention their great skill in putting their head down on a train track and listening for trains. But they are not noted for brutal strength...if so, BSK could lift an ATV off the train track. :grin:

 

[moondawg]

I hunt in a shooting box. It's not quite tall enough to stand up in, so I have to step outside. I suppose I could carry a bottle and then just empty it out side, to simulate peeing from the stand. :grin:

 

[bowriter]

I have peed in many box blinds, once in -17 weather. As I was chipping the yellow ice up with my knife to throw it out, the guy pulled up the atv and wet himself laughing. That too froze.

The named the small outpost Yellow Knife. It is now a thriving community. Perhaps you have been there?

I alsow onder how many people know what DEET stands for? It is short for DyEthylEverythingTerminal. It was invented by a guy trying to kill his wife.

 

[Coach]

Is it true BW that you have in fact just finished an article on peeing in the woods called "To Pee or Not to Pee, That is the Question"?

And working on a follow up article called "When in Doubt, Whip it Out"? lol

 

[102]

No Coach. it was not an article, it was from a book titled:

"Rain from a Cloudless Sky"

by John Sloan
illustrated by Whoflung P.

 

[RKenney]

I needed a good laugh this morning. Got to catch my breath now.

 

[Coach]

No Coach. it was not an article, it was from a book titled:

"Rain from a Cloudless Sky"

by John Sloan
illustrated by Whoflung P.

LOL, I think you could be right..edited by I.P.Freely

 

[bowriter]

Actually, it is called, "Yellow Fingers-The Story of an Aging Hunter." I could not use "Yella Wood". Some cowboy on a horse got all over me. I guess he did not understand humor.

 

[fairchaser]

But now farts, especially on damp, calm days, will cloud and hang just under nose level. I've seen mine make blackbirds drop like stones and have heard coons and possums puking. I don't know about deer, though?

They have a fancy odor machine to take care of that now.

 

[Coach]

Actually, it is called, "Yellow Fingers-The Story of an Aging Hunter." I could not use "Yella Wood". Some cowboy on a horse got all over me. I guess he did not understand humor.

I'm thinking yellow boots :grin:

 

[TheLBLman]

I've never once seen a negative reaction to human urine.

x 2

And I'm now up to 9 deer that came running in while I was peeing from the stand, including older bucks.

I've lost count, but it's a lot more than 9.

A few years ago I had one of my best deer-hunting epiphanies when I figured out the best deer call there is, it's simply peeing on dry leaves from high in a tree. I now purposefully drink extra fluids while on stand just so can unleash the secret weapon more often.

Friend of mine says the only thing that works better is taking a dump from 25 feet, and I'll have to say, it's worked well for him, and I've never known a pile of poop to spook a deer either.

 

[bowriter]

Well, I just have one question for BSK. When those deer came running in, were they laughing or prancing?

 

[BSK]

Well, I just have one question for BSK. When those deer came running in, were they laughing or prancing?

As I've gotten older, they've become concerned. They've noticed I don't have the velocity and distance I used to. They've suggested I have my prostate checked.

 

[bowriter]

I also suggest you do. You are getting to that age. It is okay, you'll get use to it, just watch the doctor's hands.

 

[bigtex]

just watch the doctor's hands.

Yeah, ya sure don't want to feel "two" hands on your shoulders..............

 

[fairchaser]

They've suggested I have my prostate checked.

My last physical, my doctor asked if I wanted my prostate checked like I had a choice and like a dumba$$, I said yes. I guess its not the best part of their day either. and no I don't enjoy it.

 

[BSK]

just watch the doctor's hands.

Yeah, ya sure don't want to feel "two" hands on your shoulders..............

HA! I'll remember that at my next check-up!