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I've often thought about it but I don't have. The mental toughness to even try staying in my stand all night so I wouldn't spook anything on the walk in that morning. So has anyone ever stayed all night in their stand so they could hunt the next morning?
 
I did once about 20 years ago.
I actually came back to it at about 2am
And strapped in and slept.

Killed a 6 at 1st light
 
I've sat all day once or twice, that's tough and my stands are too uncomfortable to spend the night in.
 
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I've taken some really good, long naps in my climbing stand in the past. If the weather was nice, I wouldn't have any problem strapping in an sleeping in a tree in a comfortable stand.

I roosted two turkeys late one evening on public land while I was in college. It was a long hard walk to where I was so I decided to find a comfortable spot and sleep there and be waiting on them at flydown. After I found my sleep spot I eased my phone out to text a few people what I was doing and my phone was dead. A few people knew I was hunting but nobody knew where exactly, and they would have assumed something was wrong if I didn't show up without telling anybody. I debated but decided to slip out and just get back early in the morning. The next morning in the dark I struggled to find the exact spot I was in the evening before. I got set up and when it broke light I discovered I was 80 yards from where I needed to be and it was too late to move. The turkeys flew down 100 yards from me, got quite, and I never saw them again. I still regret that I wasn't able to stay as I'm certain I would have killed one.
 
Opening day excitement got the best of me one year and I got up and left out before 2:00 a.m. and was in the stand before 3.....once. :D Won't do that again, hard to keep your eyes open in the dark like for hours!
 
cecil30-30 said:
I've often thought about it but I don't have. The mental toughness to even try staying in my stand all night so I wouldn't spook anything on the walk in that morning. So has anyone ever stayed all night in their stand so they could hunt the next morning?

Doing what you are describing would be illegal as you would be violating the legal hunting hours for big game.
 
scn said:
cecil30-30 said:
I've often thought about it but I don't have. The mental toughness to even try staying in my stand all night so I wouldn't spook anything on the walk in that morning. So has anyone ever stayed all night in their stand so they could hunt the next morning?

Doing what you are describing would be illegal as you would be violating the legal hunting hours for big game.
This is an interesting topic. How would this be different than nocking an arrow 30 minutes before shooting light?
 
scn said:
cecil30-30 said:
I've often thought about it but I don't have. The mental toughness to even try staying in my stand all night so I wouldn't spook anything on the walk in that morning. So has anyone ever stayed all night in their stand so they could hunt the next morning?

Doing what you are describing would be illegal as you would be violating the legal hunting hours for big game.
how's it different from getting in your stand an hour and a half before sunrise?
 
catman529 said:
scn said:
cecil30-30 said:
I've often thought about it but I don't have. The mental toughness to even try staying in my stand all night so I wouldn't spook anything on the walk in that morning. So has anyone ever stayed all night in their stand so they could hunt the next morning?

Doing what you are describing would be illegal as you would be violating the legal hunting hours for big game.
how's it different from getting in your stand an hour and a half before sunrise?

Or sitting in your stand for an hour past legal shooting like.
 
Adam Jackson said:
catman529 said:
scn said:
cecil30-30 said:
I've often thought about it but I don't have. The mental toughness to even try staying in my stand all night so I wouldn't spook anything on the walk in that morning. So has anyone ever stayed all night in their stand so they could hunt the next morning?

Doing what you are describing would be illegal as you would be violating the legal hunting hours for big game.
how's it different from getting in your stand an hour and a half before sunrise?

Or sitting in your stand for an hour past legal shooting like.

Or owl hooting ten minutes after the first cardinal chirp to locate a gobbler?

Or roosting a turkey after technical sunset?

Or throwing out duck decoys in the dark and climbing in the blind twenty minutes before shooting time and pouring a cup of coffee?

Or shooting a deer in the evening and trailing him with flashlights after sunset?

Etc.

If being in the blind, stand, or woods before/after legal shooting time is illegal, then I'm a poacher without compunction and I have no intention of changing my ways.
 
All are probably technically illegal. But, officers would likely give some leeway on most. Sitting in a stand all night with a weapon would not get the same leeway.

I suggest you look up the definition of hunting in TCA 70-1-101.
 
Tennessee Code 70-1-101. Title definitions � Construction of dates and provisions

(19) �Hunting� means chasing, driving, flushing, attracting, pursuing, worrying, following after or on the trail of, searching for, trapping, shooting at, stalking, or lying in wait for, any wildlife, whether or not such wildlife is then or subsequently captured, killed, taken, or wounded and every act of assistance to any other person, but �hunting� does not include stalking, attracting, searching for, or lying in wait for, wildlife by an unarmed person solely for the purpose of watching wildlife or taking pictures of wildlife;
 
scn said:
All are probably technically illegal. But, officers would likely give some leeway on most. Sitting in a stand all night with a weapon would not get the same leeway.

I suggest you look up the definition of hunting in TCA 70-1-101.

^^^^This^^^^^ Common Sense.... :)

It would probably not benefit a hunter much by staying in a stand all night and spreading their scent. There's no way I would do it even if it was legal.... :)
 
Deer Assassin said:
like steve said there is a difference at 5 am rather than 1 am

and IMO it would be a waste of time and not yeild any result other than being tired when you are hunting legal hours

I know a guy who had a big buck coming into his camera location a couple hours before daylight pretty much every day the week before the opener. He got in his stand around 2am on opening day. The deer showed up on schedule, and he got his buck when daylight came...
 
Some of your guys that hunt out of blinds probably wouldn't be spreading much scent.

Can someone post a link that has the twra definition of hunting. I can't find it. Seems if your gun is unloaded and your asleep you are not hunting, but I could be wrong.
 
infoman jr. said:
Deer Assassin said:
like steve said there is a difference at 5 am rather than 1 am

and IMO it would be a waste of time and not yeild any result other than being tired when you are hunting legal hours

I know a guy who had a big buck coming into his camera location a couple hours before daylight pretty much every day the week before the opener. He got in his stand around 2am on opening day. The deer showed up on schedule, and he got his buck when daylight came...


5am or 2am dark is dark.
Guess I break the law every morning I go.
To me legal shooting hours is different than going early to set up.
If you can't be in the woods after dark with a weapon then back country camping should be illegal also.
 
Legal or not, I don't think an officer would go looking for someone taking a snooze in his stand in the middle of the night. And I don't think you'd find me snoozing up there at night anyway.

Now what about pooping on public land. The rules say you can't leave any littler or sewage etc on public land. I'd hate to get caught brown-handed.

:D
 
jb3 said:
Some of your guys that hunt out of blinds probably wouldn't be spreading much scent.

Can someone post a link that has the twra definition of hunting. I can't find it. Seems if your gun is unloaded and your asleep you are not hunting, but I could be wrong.
Look about 10 posts up.
 
infoman jr. said:
Deer Assassin said:
like steve said there is a difference at 5 am rather than 1 am

and IMO it would be a waste of time and not yeild any result other than being tired when you are hunting legal hours

I know a guy who had a big buck coming into his camera location a couple hours before daylight pretty much every day the week before the opener. He got in his stand around 2am on opening day. The deer showed up on schedule, and he got his buck when daylight came...

doest make sense

if deer was on schedule he would of been there a couple hours before daylight if he was able to kill deer it was during legal light i am by no means assuming he killed it illegally

so i just dont see a mature buck coming in 3 hours early and hang out in a 40 yard radius with a guy in a tree for 3 hours


i would suspect he could of gotten in 30 minutes before light and killed the same deer

of course i may be wrong which i am often and deer are wild animals and they can do any thing at any time but I personally would not go through that much of an effort for a 1 in a thousand chance
i think you would be better off sitting all day and killing it mid day.. which i hate to do and have very little luck with
 
Deer Assassin said:
infoman jr. said:
Deer Assassin said:
like steve said there is a difference at 5 am rather than 1 am

and IMO it would be a waste of time and not yeild any result other than being tired when you are hunting legal hours

I know a guy who had a big buck coming into his camera location a couple hours before daylight pretty much every day the week before the opener. He got in his stand around 2am on opening day. The deer showed up on schedule, and he got his buck when daylight came...

doest make sense

if deer was on schedule he would of been there a couple hours before daylight if he was able to kill deer it was during legal light i am by no means assuming he killed it illegally

so i just dont see a mature buck coming in 3 hours early and hang out in a 40 yard radius with a guy in a tree for 3 hours


i would suspect he could of gotten in 30 minutes before light and killed the same deer

of course i may be wrong which i am often and deer are wild animals and they can do any thing at any time but I personally would not go through that much of an effort for a 1 in a thousand chance
i think you would be better off sitting all day and killing it mid day.. which i hate to do and have very little luck with
I guess you've never hunted in a place where bucks would make snow angels in a corn pile. I haven't either, but he seemed to have that one trained. To each his own. :)
 
that makes more sense in ky over bait i retract my statement i can see that working

of course there are folks that say you cant kill a big buck over bait but they do it all the time in other states


i assume you meant snow angels that is funny
 
scn said:
All are probably technically illegal. But, officers would likely give some leeway on most. Sitting in a stand all night with a weapon would not get the same leeway.

I suggest you look up the definition of hunting in TCA 70-1-101.

I don't want to turn this into a legal debate, but I also don't want to ignore this. This rarely happens scn, but I will have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. If the law were as you say, then in this instance it would yield an absurd result. We literally wouldn't be able to get out of our trucks until 30 minutes before daylight and would have all decoys up or deer loaded before sunset. Every hunter in the state would be breaking the law every time the left the house. Every court in the nation, including the Tennessee Supreme Court, has held that "We will not apply a particular interpretation of a statute if that interpretation would yield an absurd result." State v. Flemming, 19 S.W.3d 195, 197 (Tenn. 2000).

I am well aware that the definition of "hunting" is very broad, by statute, but fortunately, for all of the reasons above, the law (the actual law - i.e., the T.C.A.) does not prohibit "hunting" as it is defined, during proscribed hours, it only prohibits the shooting or taking of game during those times.

The Fish and Wildlife Commission sets most regulations for game and wildlife, but they only do so because they are authorized to do so by state statue. (T.C.A. 70-4-107) The Commission may only set rules and regulations within the authority granted to them by statute.

T.C.A 70-4-107(c)(2) - the statue that authorizes the Game and Fish Commission to set dates and hours for legal hunting, provides that :
"If the commission finds that the supply of game or fish, or both, is sufficient to allow taking without the danger of extinction or undue depletion, it shall announce such fact by proclamation, in which it shall state the species of the game or fish, or both, that may be taken without the danger as mentioned in this section, and shall likewise ascertain and announce the dates and hours of the day between which such game or fish, or both, may be taken without the dangers set forth."

Note, it doesn't say the hours during which they can be "hunted" (which includes sitting in a stand or throwing decoys) but the hours in which they can be "taken" (which does not).

If that doesn't clear it up, the same section which defines "hunting" also defines "hours" for purposes of this Title of the code. When used in Title 70 of the TCA, (including the section listed above)

"the word 'hours' means the hours of the day or night when wildlife by be taken lawfully"

So, it is illegal to shoot a deer prior to "30 minutes before sunrise" but it is not illegal to sit in your stand at night.
 
I couldn't do it because I take a dump within five minutes of waking up. I'd have to climb down, poop, and I'd probably alert everything with a nose within 100 yards.
 
Southern Sportsman said:
scn said:
All are probably technically illegal. But, officers would likely give some leeway on most. Sitting in a stand all night with a weapon would not get the same leeway.

I suggest you look up the definition of hunting in TCA 70-1-101.

I don't want to turn this into a legal debate, but I also don't want to ignore this. This rarely happens scn, but I will have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. If the law were as you say, then in this instance it would yield an absurd result. We literally wouldn't be able to get out of our trucks until 30 minutes before daylight and would have all decoys up or deer loaded before sunset. Every hunter in the state would be breaking the law every time the left the house. Every court in the nation, including the Tennessee Supreme Court, has held that "We will not apply a particular interpretation of a statute if that interpretation would yield an absurd result." State v. Flemming, 19 S.W.3d 195, 197 (Tenn. 2000).

I am well aware that the definition of "hunting" is very broad, by statute, but fortunately, for all of the reasons above, the law (the actual law - i.e., the T.C.A.) does not prohibit "hunting" as it is defined, during proscribed hours, it only prohibits the shooting or taking of game during those times.

The Fish and Wildlife Commission sets most regulations for game and wildlife, but they only do so because they are authorized to do so by state statue. (T.C.A. 70-4-107) The Commission may only set rules and regulations within the authority granted to them by statute.

T.C.A 70-4-107(c)(2) - the statue that authorizes the Game and Fish Commission to set dates and hours for legal hunting, provides that :
"If the commission finds that the supply of game or fish, or both, is sufficient to allow taking without the danger of extinction or undue depletion, it shall announce such fact by proclamation, in which it shall state the species of the game or fish, or both, that may be taken without the danger as mentioned in this section, and shall likewise ascertain and announce the dates and hours of the day between which such game or fish, or both, may be taken without the dangers set forth."

Note, it doesn't say the hours during which they can be "hunted" (which includes sitting in a stand or throwing decoys) but the hours in which they can be "taken" (which does not).

If that doesn't clear it up, the same section which defines "hunting" also defines "hours" for purposes of this Title of the code. When used in Title 70 of the TCA, (including the section listed above)

"the word 'hours' means the hours of the day or night when wildlife by be taken lawfully"

So, it is illegal to shoot a deer prior to "30 minutes before sunrise" but it is not illegal to sit in your stand at night.

I totally disagree with your analysis. But, I guess that is why we have courts to make the final decision. I stand 100% by what I have posted. I'll leave it at that.
 

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