New TN World record confirmed

[AT Hiker]

So is there anymore details to this world class buck? Like how many people seen him, trail cam pics, did they see him last year....


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[SBS]

Did I read that this buck was only 3.5 or did I dream that?

 

[Back Home]

Did I read that this buck was only 3.5 or did I dream that?

That's what an article said that I read in the Tennessean.

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[D84]

I also heard twra aged him at 3.5

 

[Roost 1]

This is the other deer, i would rather have killed it than the other one, lol

Who said this is a WR? I don't think it is.

 

[GRIT]

If you haven't seen this it might help the ones that wanted info on it.There is 3 or 4 to watch about this deer.
https://youtu.be/fWcexQpjXtA

 

[cowhunter71]

I also heard twra aged him at 3.5

This should be a dead give away as to how this buck, and the many that will follow, "came to be"

 

[fairchaser]

They are now saying the deer is 4.5 and had no incisors or lower front teeth. It was a small buck and estimated 150 pounds live weight. They also knew about the buck in that area. It's being referred to as the Tennessee Tucker Buck. It's not a massive rack but the tines and length are. There are five broken off or broken points that could have added another 10 inches. Killed on November 7, 2016 early around 7:00 am with a muzzleloader.

 

[Roost 1]

I also heard twra aged him at 3.5

This should be a dead give away as to how this buck, and the many that will follow, "came to be"

Where do you suppose this deer came from? I hear it was in the city limits just across the road from a subdivision. I think lots people had seen this deer.

 

[cowhunter71]

I don't doubt it was killed in Tn. I doubt where the buck's "genetics" came from. To have that much mass and "junk" at only 3.5 years old is a stretch for any state in the union. Hard to believe a wild and native buck could grow that much size in only 3.5 or even 4.5 years without the help of steroids and massive amounts of protein. This is just my opinion.

 

[Mike Belt]

Just a thought but possibly the reason this new world record buck had the antlers he did is because of his body size. I don't remember reading what that second big buck killed in that county weighed but this might apply to him as well. It would be interesting to see what the average buck weight is for that area as well. If this/these bucks are small framed then less of what they consume is directed toward skeletal growth and more could be dedicated to antler growth.
This was a terrible year for me seeing bucks at Ames but some of the best antlers and potential for future growth looked like they were on small framed bucks.

 

[GRIT]

The 51 point buck that was killed there in 2000 weighed 250 pounds i think.
I don't know what the average weight is but i hunt close to there and have killed several that weighed 180 to 200 pounds.

 

[Roost 1]

I don't doubt it was killed in Tn. I doubt where the buck's "genetics" came from. To have that much mass and "junk" at only 3.5 years old is a stretch for any state in the union. Hard to believe a wild and native buck could grow that much size in only 3.5 or even 4.5 years without the help of steroids and massive amounts of protein. This is just my opinion.

Maybe a DNA test should be considered!!!!

 

[GRIT]

The hunter had the land the deer showed up on his land and he killed it.Congrats to him that deer wasn't feed nothing special he was just a strange deer that had a unusual rack.

 

[fairchaser]

The hunter had the land the deer showed up on his land and he killed it.Congrats to him that deer wasn't feed nothing special he was just a strange deer that had a unusual rack.

That's exactly right Grit. Even the TWRA knew about this buck and they were notified about the kill minutes after the deer hit the ground. The game warden already knew which buck it was. This buck lived in the area and so did the previous state record nontypical. There are just some magical combinations of genetics and nutrition for that small area that produces these nontypical cluster rack bucks. There was nothing nefarious about this kill. Completely legit. The buck had no lower incisors which could mean his particular genetics directed his nutrition to his rack away from more critical areas such as teeth, skeletal structure and body development. It was a small body deer.

 

[bowhunterfanatic]

The hunter had the land the deer showed up on his land and he killed it.Congrats to him that deer wasn't feed nothing special he was just a strange deer that had a unusual rack.

That's exactly right Grit. Even the TWRA knew about this buck and they were notified about the kill minutes after the deer hit the ground. The game warden already knew which buck it was. This buck lived in the area and so did the previous state record nontypical. There are just some magical combinations of genetics and nutrition for that small area that produces these nontypical cluster rack bucks. There was nothing nefarious about this kill. Completely legit. The buck had no lower incisors which could mean his particular genetics directed his nutrition to his rack away from more critical areas such as teeth, skeletal structure and body development. It was a small body deer.

That would make a lot of sense. I somewhat assumed this deer had to have some type of genetic mutation to make a rack that like as young as he did.

 

[callemquacktn]

I don't doubt it was killed in Tn. I doubt where the buck's "genetics" came from. To have that much mass and "junk" at only 3.5 years old is a stretch for any state in the union. Hard to believe a wild and native buck could grow that much size in only 3.5 or even 4.5 years without the help of steroids and massive amounts of protein. This is just my opinion.

They did blood test on the deer and it is 100% wild. Also it was aged at 4.5 on the scoring day.

 

[callemquacktn]

I don't doubt it was killed in Tn. I doubt where the buck's "genetics" came from. To have that much mass and "junk" at only 3.5 years old is a stretch for any state in the union. Hard to believe a wild and native buck could grow that much size in only 3.5 or even 4.5 years without the help of steroids and massive amounts of protein. This is just my opinion.

Maybe a DNA test should be considered!!!!

They did do blood work and it was 100% wild

 

[BULL MOOSE]

I don't doubt it was killed in Tn. I doubt where the buck's "genetics" came from. To have that much mass and "junk" at only 3.5 years old is a stretch for any state in the union. Hard to believe a wild and native buck could grow that much size in only 3.5 or even 4.5 years without the help of steroids and massive amounts of protein. This is just my opinion.

Maybe a DNA test should be considered!!!!

They did do blood work and it was 100% wild

I don't doubt its wildness, but enlighten us about this wild blood test.

 

[AT Hiker]

I'm ignorant when it comes to this "blood test". What exactly do they look for? That's very interesting all the way the around. Why would they even do a blood test? Is that something that happens when you kill the world?


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[Boone 58]

312 3/8...................... :super:

 

[Roost 1]

I'm ignorant when it comes to this "blood test". What exactly do they look for? That's very interesting all the way the around. Why would they even do a blood test? Is that something that happens when you kill the world?


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Deer farms.....turn genetically superior does out in the wild they can produce genetically superior bucks. I'm surprised you haven't heard these rumors in a specific area you hunt.

 

[51Pointer]

The 51 point buck that was killed there in 2000 weighed 250 pounds i think.
I don't know what the average weight is but i hunt close to there and have killed several that weighed 180 to 200 pounds.

Grit and Mike, yes the #2 buck dressed at 250lbs and was also aged at 3.5 years old, I may have killed over 100 deer off my old farm in Gallatin, I had a doe that dressed 200lbs, lots of bucks in the 125-150lbs range and a handful of bucks that dressed around 200, Gallatin is covered in scrub bucks and monsters imo, age is the biggest factor..... I use to see 1.5 year olds that had 80-100" and weighed 70lbs maybe, I rattled in a 140" buck for my friend last time I hunted their that did weigh 120lbs live weight


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[AT Hiker]

I'm ignorant when it comes to this "blood test". What exactly do they look for? That's very interesting all the way the around. Why would they even do a blood test? Is that something that happens when you kill the world?


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Deer farms.....turn genetically superior does out in the wild they can produce genetically superior bucks. I'm surprised you haven't heard these rumors in a specific area you hunt.

Yea, I have heard the rumors although I have forgotten about them to be honest until now.

So these blood test I assume can identify a trait that is in captive deer that's not in wild deer, or vice versus?


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[cowhunter71]

I'm ignorant when it comes to this "blood test". What exactly do they look for? That's very interesting all the way the around. Why would they even do a blood test? Is that something that happens when you kill the world?


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Deer farms.....turn genetically superior does out in the wild they can produce genetically superior bucks. I'm surprised you haven't heard these rumors in a specific area you hunt.

Anyone that does not believe this is happening as a direct result of deer "farming", is seriously mistaken. Happening in several states. Unfortunately, it will be these idiots with money and their "farmed" genetics that end up wiping out whole native herds with introduced disease.

 

[Mike Belt]

Have to ask... Why would a deer farmer turn genetically "superior" does lose in the wild in an attempt to "produce" genetically superior wild offspring? Wouldn't that be like cutting his own throat?

 

[RUGER]

Have to ask... Why would a deer farmer turn genetically "superior" does lose in the wild in an attempt to "produce" genetically superior wild offspring? Wouldn't that be like cutting his own throat?

I doubt he would.
Trees blow down and fences get damaged and they get away I would suspect.

 

[fairchaser]

Have to ask... Why would a deer farmer turn genetically "superior" does lose in the wild in an attempt to "produce" genetically superior wild offspring? Wouldn't that be like cutting his own throat?

I doubt he would.
Trees blow down and fences get damaged and they get away I would suspect.

I'm not convinced this is true in this case however, it is bound to happen that pen raised deer will escape. After a couple of generations, I'm not sure it matters that much. It's still a wild deer and the DNA will be filtered into the herd. Traits like too large antlers will be evolved out of the herd over time. Now if this happens routinely and regular over a period of years it could affect the herd I guess. I'm no geneticist!

 

[Headhunter]

My question is "if this buck is somehow the result of a deer farm (which I do not believe)", where is the deer farm located the buck or the doe that carried the genetics came from?

 

[GRIT]

Maybe just maybe Tennessee is capable of producing some nice bucks now.We have had a lot of TWRA changes over the last 15 to 20 years on what we can shoot and can't shoot.Maybe it's working.