Looks Mature but Should he get Another Year?

[BlountArrow]

I'm blessed to be in a situation where I can start asking myself these questions. Two/three years ago this deer would be killed; no questions asked (well, I would have tried). You guys that manage property (landowners / leases)...what would you do here? I'm an admitted trophy hunter when it comes to this particular piece of property, and while a mature buck is indeed a trophy in my book I got to wonder "if he lived would he be much bigger next year"? Would you let him walk in hopes he would be sporting a larger rack next year?

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[szuliman1]

He's old enough to me.

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[Boll Weevil]

That is an old fellow. On my farm green light on that deer from a management perspective for sure...zero hesitation. Boom.

 

[wsm]

I would try to take him,thats a good buck to me.

 

[Mr. Hawk]

If recent pic may just be 3.5, swollen neck

 

[FLTENNHUNTER1]

Bang flop

 

[Mr. Hawk]

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=263477 See this post for age examples

 

[BlountArrow]

If recent pic may just be 3.5, swollen neck

It was taken 2 days ago I think. In my area they're not usually rutting yet; in fact they're not right now. But I'm not educated on how far in advance of the actual rut the neck swelling occurs either.

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[rem270]

People have different opinions so i will give mine. I would not shoot that deer no matter the age. Now if you do then i will be as tickled for you as if i would have killed it.

Good luck. Hope you get to see him in person and make that decision!

 

[leader]

BOOM goes the dynamite!!!!


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[spoon]

Shoot him if he makes you happy

 

[redblood]

he is old enough. i think he is 4.5 butwith a 2 buck limit and good farms to hunt..i would pass unless i had a late season tag. but i am fine with not killing anything and accomplish that pretty regularly

 

[Anonymous]

He may not add much but he will add mass. I would hold off personally but that's just me. Enjoy the chase!

 

[WG3]

It comes down to a personal choice, for myself, if I had a place where I didn't have to worry about other hunters taking him. I would pass, unless I hadn't gotten anything bigger. Just remember that all of these are personal opinions.

 

[Hillbilly Hunter]

Fully mature. Shoot

 

[Shed Hunter]

IMO, if his antlers are what you desire shoot him. I doubt he grows very much at all if he does live

 

[W.Seay]

I don't think he'll gain much in the antler department, even by giving him another year.

 

[BlountArrow]

I don't think he'll gain much in the antler department, even by giving him another year.

Thanks for the input. For me, on this property that is the big question. Maybe I should have added too that this is South East TN, which isn't to say there aren't some dandy mountain bruisers here and there, but for our property he's probably within 20 inches of the largest bucks we've ever seen (and trust me the place is NOT crawling with them). One or two bucks the last three years; and he's one of maybe three this year.

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[tree_ghost]

I would age this buck at 4.5yo...to me the thickness of the neck flows directly into the depth of the chest and brisket...front half of the body is symmetrical in thickness to the back half...also notice the apparent "short" muzzle on this buck, this is an indicator at this time of year that he's a 4.5...that being said I'd put him in the 115"-120" range...the jump from 4.5 to 5.5 usually will have the most noticeable difference in rack size when you look at the mass...tine length usually doesn't change much but many times this age class will start shooting sticker points off if the deer possesses those genetic traits... That being said if your a trophy hunter with the opportunity at a higher class buck then I say pass on him...just my .02


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[W.Seay]

I think that buck is definitely 4.5. I agree with the post above.

 

[redblood]

I don't think he'll gain much in the antler department, even by giving him another year.

Thanks for the input. For me, on this property that is the big question. Maybe I should have added too that this is South East TN, which isn't to say there aren't some dandy mountain bruisers here and there, but for our property he's probably within 20 inches of the largest bucks we've ever seen (and trust me the place is NOT crawling with them). One or two bucks the last three years; and he's one of maybe three this year.

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well then with that info being added, you may want to shoot if he shows.

 

[BlountArrow]

I would age this buck at 4.5yo...to me the thickness of the neck flows directly into the depth of the chest and brisket...front half of the body is symmetrical in thickness to the back half...also notice the apparent "short" muzzle on this buck, this is an indicator at this time of year that he's a 4.5...that being said I'd put him in the 115"-120" range...the jump from 4.5 to 5.5 usually will have the most noticeable difference in rack size when you look at the mass...tine length usually doesn't change much but many times this age class will start shooting sticker points off if the deer possesses those genetic traits... That being said if your a trophy hunter with the opportunity at a higher class buck then I say pass on him...just my .02


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I wasn't going to mention the short muzzle but I thought the same thing; that it looked short!

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[String Music]

That looks to be a mature buck with poor genetics. I would also put him at 4.5. It looks like he has a tear in his ear.

There is no way to know for sure if he will be bigger next year. My opinion is, if you are asking other people whether or not to shoot him, you likely won't be completely satisfied if you do kill him.

If he isn't what you are looking for, give him a pass.

 

[Winchester]

There is no way to know for sure if he will be bigger next year. My opinion is, if you are asking other people whether or not to shoot him, you likely won't be completely satisfied if you do kill him.

If he isn't what you are looking for, give him a pass.[/quote]

There you have it, let him go, as if you even questioned shooting him hes not big enough! You have NOTHING to lose by letting him walk.

 

[BlountArrow]

That looks to be a mature buck with poor genetics. I would also put him at 4.5. It looks like he has a tear in his ear.

There is no way to know for sure if he will be bigger next year. My opinion is, if you are asking other people whether or not to shoot him, you likely won't be completely satisfied if you do kill him.

If he isn't what you are looking for, give him a pass.

Thanks, man. I appreciate the input. Yeah, I'm very much back and forth.

Looking forward to seeing your pics soon...

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[Mike Belt]

Pretty buck but if you're looking for something bigger let him walk. I quit counting bucks like that I've let walk. They may be mature or close to it and may not put on much if any more antler growth but if they aren't what I'm looking for they walk. It all depends on what you're happy with. I guess I'm greedy, lol. I want mature bucks but with head gear that impresses me which really narrows the playing field. Just watching them fires me up and occasionally they teach me a thing or two.

 

[String Music]

That looks to be a mature buck with poor genetics. I would also put him at 4.5. It looks like he has a tear in his ear.

There is no way to know for sure if he will be bigger next year. My opinion is, if you are asking other people whether or not to shoot him, you likely won't be completely satisfied if you do kill him.

If he isn't what you are looking for, give him a pass.

Thanks, man. I appreciate the input. Yeah, I'm very much back and forth.

Looking forward to seeing your pics soon...

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You would have seen pics last Saturday if I could shoot straight. Dang open sights!

 

[String Music]

Do you have anymore pics of this buck?

 

[BlountArrow]

Do you have anymore pics of this buck?

Yeah, I think I have one or two...let me see if I can find them. My trail cam surveying is so unorganized. I need to install some sort of software to help keep track of it all.

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[BlountArrow]

Pretty buck but if you're looking for something bigger let him walk. I quit counting bucks like that I've let walk. They may be mature or close to it and may not put on much if any more antler growth but if they aren't what I'm looking for they walk. It all depends on what you're happy with. I guess I'm greedy, lol. I want mature bucks but with head gear that impresses me which really narrows the playing field. Just watching them fires me up and occasionally they teach me a thing or two.

I don't think it's greedy if you're truly grateful for what you have and work for it.

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