I don't understand

[scn]

I haven't had/taken the time to watch the video of the Commission meeting. When I checked on here today a couple of times from work, I REALLY thought from the comments that somehow they had gone back to their original plan. Instead, I am told that they actually moved a few more blinds back to the 60 day draw?

For the hunters wanting things to stay the same, this was nothing short of a MAJOR win. Did anyone really think that they were going to just table EVERYTHING and walk away?

Wow is all I can say about some of the angry comments.

 

[RUGER]

My biggest issue is they took the best 5 spots where I hunt and made it where they will be pretty much empty and will essentially kill the entire wma
They got what they wanted regardless of what any hunter wanted
Got more opportunity though

 

[Levee Jumper]

I haven't had/taken the time to watch the video of the Commission meeting. When I checked on here today a couple of times from work, I REALLY thought from the comments that somehow they had gone back to their original plan. Instead, I am told that they actually moved a few more blinds back to the 60 day draw?

For the hunters wanting things to stay the same, this was nothing short of a MAJOR win. Did anyone really think that they were going to just table EVERYTHING and walk away?

Wow is all I can say about some of the angry comments.

No surprise to me that you don't understand.

 

[THE DUKE]

The gov has had changed right be4 and after u left scn, it's ridiculous now they have forced most everyone out that had common sense and the one's with authority are book smart and no common sense.

 

[scn]

No surprise to me that you don't understand.

I didn't like the plan. I highly suspect I lobbied against it as hard or harder than you did.

 

[scn]

The gov has had changed right be4 and after u left scn, it's ridiculous now they have forced most everyone out that had common sense and the one's with authority are book smart and no common sense.

To go from what the original plan was to where it ended up showed some folks in charge listened and used more than a little common sense. I can't say I like it, but it is a heck of a lot better than what was first proposed.

 

[Dodge Man]

My biggest complaint would be they say it will cost $30,000 per blind to build and brush. My group I draw with has built multiple draw blinds with high quality treated lumber for $3-$4,000 max.

 

[THE DUKE]

My guess for using metal is the fear of being burned down by irritated hunters.

 

[RUGER]

I didn't like the plan. I highly suspect I lobbied against it as hard or harder than you did.

That's a fact !

 

[Dodge Man]

My guess for using metal is the fear of being burned down by irritated hunters.

Its going to be covered in dry brush that will burn easy. I can't imagine the blind would be usable if it was set on fire. A blind covered in brush would burn Hot and probably warp even a metal frame. Have you ever seen what a burned up car or truck looks like? They don't have much that will burn and they turn into a melted pile of metal.

They plan on paying $3,000 to have it brushed. I would imagine if it gets burned after season is open it probably would not get brushed a 2nd time.

 

[cmn]

Hunters wanting to burn blinds, hunters spitting mad out hatred because of change...sounds a bit like our political world...we may not agree but this could be just what the anti hunters need us to do...implode. I am truly sorry for those hunters who have "lost" what they used to know. I was skeptical of the original plan also. This is a huge compromise. Change is a 2 way street. Always some agree and some will not. Disagreeing is cool as long as we do not divide and get so angry we want the worst result or decide to take matters into our own hands...

 

[Headhunter]

This was pushed through by rich people who have ZERO care for the everyday hunter. No different than the selling of blinds, actually meeting was worse than the selling of duck blinds.

It was a completely rigged meeting, no way they were going to listen to any hunter who showed up, they basically said so, a commissioner said they would defer to the area managers before listening to a hunter.

And even though many things about how the proposal will be implemented are still not known, where are they getting over 1 million dollars to build blinds, they would not put off making a decision on the proposal for some time to be sure they were doing the right thing.

SAD and WRONG. No different than any other crooked political system in the country.

 

[Westtnduckhtr]

I don't understand the definition of the term "rich people" that keeps getting thrown around in these threads. The only rich people I know that duck hunt sure the hell are not hunting in TN except in a few mostly private spots. Anyone I talk to is not going to hunt OH, Camden, West Sandy, or a West TN draw area if they have the need to go sit in a duck blind.

 

[Headhunter]

I don't understand the definition of the term "rich people" that keeps getting thrown around in these threads. The only rich people I know that duck hunt sure the hell are not hunting in TN except in a few mostly private spots. Anyone I talk to is not going to hunt OH, Camden, West Sandy, or a West TN draw area if they have the need to go sit in a duck blind.

It has been state the main reason for these idiot proposals was because of rich people buying blinds. At least that is the wildlife division said. Also, a rich person on the commission said he wanted a place to hunt for a few days but not have to build a blind or basically do any work. And apparently people throw a fit about blinds being bought and sold, which I would understand if the only way to get a public blind would be to be the highest bidder. And the "everybody gets a trophy, life is not fair, I am offended, etc generation" is also behind a lot this.

As far as I know, the drawings are fair (other than people who either buy or have many people buy a license in order to draw a blind even though many of the "extra" people do not hunt) but the drawings are fair and everyone throws their name in to a random drawing. As far what is done with a legally drawn blind, why care? Especially since guiding is allowed from blinds that are drawn by the public, which to me is no different than someone who fairly draws a blind in a random drawing, renting or selling the use of the blind which is basically the same thing as the guide is doing.

If you read through the threads, there are several who complain about people with more money having an advantage. Funny a commissioner with money helped rig this proposal and push it through. No different than any other crooked politics.

 

[Westtnduckhtr]

People buying blinds are for the most part buying with "pooled money" everyone chipping in that wants to hunt. I still stand by my asking around, your so called "rich people" are not going to hunt the places mentioned in my earlier post.
While it may be true a commissioner wanted a place to hunt, I would find it hard to believe he would propose legislation just to have a place to hunt a few days.
We can agree that I feel guiding should not be held or allowed on public property. It robs opportunity from the public. Also, buying and selling blinds should not be allowed.
I just want to mention, I do not currently hunt waterfowl in TN, despite owning a farm in WTN. So no worries about me every taking your spot.

 

[Headhunter]

I agree for the most part, except the Wildlife Division told me one of the main reasons for this BS was because of the selling of duck blinds and everyone I have heard, including some on this website, complain about the "rich people".

The main reason for this idiotic proposal comes from the liberal, socialist, communistic thinking that everyone has to have an opportunity to sit in a duck blind. Absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the hunt, the experience, anything benefiting the ducks, the cost, nothing but "the everyone gets a trophy" attitude. That came straight from a guy who helped create the proposal.

 

[Smashdn]

@scn
You owe me $100.
You say, "No, I don't owe you anything."
I say, "Fine, just pay me $20 and we'll call it good."
You agree because you really don't have a say in the matter.

That's essentially what happened.

You guys ever haggled over a car? We just got sold the floor mats at full msrp.

 

[drake799]

I agree for the most part, except the Wildlife Division told me one of the main reasons for this BS was because of the selling of duck blinds and everyone I have heard, including some on this website, complain about the "rich people".

The main reason for this idiotic proposal comes from the liberal, socialist, communistic thinking that everyone has to have an opportunity to sit in a duck blind. Absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the hunt, the experience, anything benefiting the ducks, the cost, nothing but "the everyone gets a trophy" attitude. That came straight from a guy who helped create the proposal.

What I told someone the other day. It was Democratic duck hunting

 

[Headhunter]

I haven't had/taken the time to watch the video of the Commission meeting. When I checked on here today a couple of times from work, I REALLY thought from the comments that somehow they had gone back to their original plan. Instead, I am told that they actually moved a few more blinds back to the 60 day draw?

For the hunters wanting things to stay the same, this was nothing short of a MAJOR win. Did anyone really think that they were going to just table EVERYTHING and walk away?

Wow is all I can say about some of the angry comments.

And why all the angry comments? Because there is not one reason in the entire proposal based on improving duck hunting, nothing for the ducks, actually does not help the hunter, actually hurts the majority of hunters. They get a chance to sit in a blind for a few days. A couple of times of that and not only not killing even one duck, but not even seeing a duck and people will understand they need more than a few days and and actually be able to hunt when the weather and the ducks cooperate, the rest of the duck season, which is about 75 percent of the season and the case for many blinds is basically the entire season and people will realize what a huge waste of time and money this is and

This entire proposal is about EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY! Absolutely nothing to do with improving duck hunting areas or the quality of duck hunting! Such a HUGE waste of time, energy and money and in a short time period, the TWRA blinds will most likely be in worse shape than any of the bad blinds are currently. Why say that? What has the government and or the TWRA ever taken care of that is by itself? Meaning someone is not there every single day to maintain. Not saying hunters or anyone will destroy the TWRA made blinds, but the TWRA doesn't have the money, staff, or time to take care of much they already are responsible for. They are going to build and maintain blinds? Really? I see nothing but failure and most likely, even more cost increase in licenses to take care of this fantasy the TWRA has to just to "give everyone a trophy".

 

[scn]

Glad they could give you something else to whine about.