Elk Draw

[diesel920]

Hey everyone. Can anyone tell me when the draw is for elk or any of the other quota hunts? It's my first year entering and I haven't been able to find the date anywhere! Thanks.

 

[gtk]

would help if you let us know which state there are lots of draws out there

 

[diesel920]

Haha sorry you're right. I meant here in Tennessee.

 

[scn]

The deadline for applying for WMA Quota hunts and Elk hunts was midnight of July 25.

 

[diesel920]

The deadline for applying for WMA Quota hunts and Elk hunts was midnight of July 25.

I applied for the hunts. I was wondering if anyone knew when we find out if we were selected or not.

 

[scn]

There isn't a set date for the drawing. TWRA releases the results within hours of completing the draw and making sure it was correct. The WMA results have normally been out in mid-August. Last year there were some issues in the drawing process and it was a little later.

The elk results have traditionally been announced at the August Commission meeting.

 

[Shanman]

Will be announced today. ray: op: ray:
Will be some happy hunters in a few hours, goodluck.

 

[SKFOOTER]

Congrats to the 15 lucky applicants announced today but the inequity continues. Only 1 out of the 15 successful applicants in the Elk Hunt Drawing is from West Tennessee. Congratulations David Pruitt of Jackson.

 

[fairchaser]

I'm so bummed I didn't get drawn this year. I thought for sure this was the year. I'm really starting to wonder whether it's a fantasy and a big waste of time and money to put in for it. I mean really it couldn't be that many people putting in and I've been putting in since they opened it up. Surely my number will come up soon. Maybe next year! One can only hope. NOT! :rotf:

 

[huntinkev]

Maybe next year. I'm amazed at how the east side always draws most of the tags. Maybe there isn't very many west of cookeville putting in for it. Oh well, I'll try again next year.

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[SKFOOTER]

That's exactly the response given by TWRA when questioned about the vast majority of the successful draws being from East Tennessee. If the elk herd had been restored statewide it might make it easier to accept that reply. But West Tennessee has been the "red headed step-child for quite a few years now.

 

[scn]

That's exactly the response given by TWRA when questioned about the vast majority of the successful draws being from East Tennessee. If the elk herd had been restored statewide it might make it easier to accept that reply. But West Tennessee has been the "red headed step-child for quite a few years now.

The drawing is a random draw with the applicant's TWRA ID number. Their geographic location in the state is not even a factor in the random drawing.

But, continue on whining about west Tennessee folks not getting drawn.

 

[Andy S.]

SKFOOTER - I would think with the use of technology today, the applicants and their respective zip codes could be pulled pretty easily and plotted to see where the majority of applicants are from that apply for the hunt. The data is there, and I would think it could be pulled in short order. It woudl definitely be interesting to see just how many hunters apply, and from where in the state. This is a simple task that could display the cold hard facts and put this discussion to bed forever.

 

[SKFOOTER]

That's exactly the response given by TWRA when questioned about the vast majority of the successful draws being from East Tennessee. If the elk herd had been restored statewide it might make it easier to accept that reply. But West Tennessee has been the "red headed step-child for quite a few years now.

The drawing is a random draw with the applicant's TWRA ID number. Their geographic location in the state is not even a factor in the random drawing.

But, continue on whining about west Tennessee folks not getting drawn.

Whining? I think not. Just making a valid point. The history of the elk draw since it's inception leans heavily to residents of East Tennessee being drawn. Congrats are definitely in order for them but let's call a spade a spade. Why not make a certain amount of the permits available to each of the 3 regions of the state? The entire state's residents purchase hunting licenses which helps support TWRA. So why not make the elk draw more equitable for residents of all 3 regions?

 

[Stretcher_Jockey]

That's exactly the response given by TWRA when questioned about the vast majority of the successful draws being from East Tennessee. If the elk herd had been restored statewide it might make it easier to accept that reply. But West Tennessee has been the "red headed step-child for quite a few years now.

The drawing is a random draw with the applicant's TWRA ID number. Their geographic location in the state is not even a factor in the random drawing.

But, continue on whining about west Tennessee folks not getting drawn.

Whining? I think not. Just making a valid point. The history of the elk draw since it's inception leans heavily to residents of East Tennessee being drawn. Congrats are definitely in order for them but let's call a spade a spade. Why not make a certain amount of the permits available to each of the 3 regions of the state? The entire state's residents purchase hunting licenses which helps support TWRA. So why not make the elk draw more equitable for residents of all 3 regions?

Because everyone that puts in has the same chance of drawing. If there's far more applicants in East TN than West, how is it fair to them for people in West TN to get way better draw odds by having permits dedicated to them with many fewer applicants? It's not fair. And I say that as someone who lives in West TN. The drawing is totally random and imo is perfect just the way it is. Each person gets their name in the hat one time and has the same chance regardless of whether they've put in before or not. Also a big fan of the 10yr waiting period if drawn.

 

[SKFOOTER]

But you don't like the preference point system of the Presidents Island draw. Interesting.

 

[Stretcher_Jockey]

But you don't like the preference point system of the Presidents Island draw. Interesting.

You are correct. But what does that have to do with my above post?

 

[tickweed]

I would have to think, as many hunters who are in west Tn., that many are putting in for the elk hunt. There is no doubt that the drawing is done fair, but to only have one drawn from west Tn. is odd. this way every year. maybe more are putting in from that part of the state. I know David Pruitt. congrats to him.

 

[Mike Belt]

I would think that more applications are entered from east Tn than west Tn so it makes sense to me that more from east Tn would be drawn.... but stranger things have happened.

 

[Stretcher_Jockey]

I would think that more applications are entered from east Tn than west Tn so it makes sense to me that more from east Tn would be drawn.... but stranger things have happened.

Pretty sure TWRA published where applicants were coming from a few years ago. People just want a reason to believe the system is rigged against them. The idea of dedicating permits to each portion of the stage is ridiculous. And this is coming from someone from West TN who's applied every year since the elk draw began and hasn't drawn yet. Odds are I won't ever draw. But my odds are the same as every other person.

 

[SKFOOTER]

I never said or insuated that the draw was rigged. And it is not ridiculous to dedicate the elk permits for each of the 3 regions of the state. West Tennesseeans pay our fair share thru license purchases. So we'd like for TWRA to devise a system that would allocate us an equal chance to draw an elk tag. And to be honest with you stretcher jockey, it appears that you're new kid on the block. So I'd respectfully suggest that you earn your stripes before you start preaching.

 

[Stretcher_Jockey]

I never said or insuated that the draw was rigged. And it is not ridiculous to dedicate the elk permits for each of the 3 regions of the state. West Tennesseeans pay our fair share thru license purchases. So we'd like for TWRA to devise a system that would allocate us an equal chance to draw an elk tag. And to be honest with you stretcher jockey, it appears that you're new kid on the block. So I'd respectfully suggest that you earn your stripes before you start preaching.

More permits dedicated to West Tennessee would give West Tennesseans higher odds of drawing since we likely have fewer applicants. How is that fair to the people in East TN who contribute just as much as we do? There's 4 TWRA regions btw.

Also, I respectfully decline your suggestion.

 

[SKFOOTER]

Spoken like a true millennial.

 

[scn]

I never said or insuated that the draw was rigged. And it is not ridiculous to dedicate the elk permits for each of the 3 regions of the state. West Tennesseeans pay our fair share thru license purchases. So we'd like for TWRA to devise a system that would allocate us an equal chance to draw an elk tag. And to be honest with you stretcher jockey, it appears that you're new kid on the block. So I'd respectfully suggest that you earn your stripes before you start preaching.

You already have an equal chance to draw an elk tag. It is the same chance as anyone else in the state. What part of the FACT that geographical location of the applicant is NOT factored into the equation in the drawing do you not understand?

 

[SKFOOTER]

And you evidently have no clue as to what my argument is. I realize that geographical location is not factored into the drawing. But based on the overwhelming number of successful applicants since the elk draw began being from East Tennessee I'm saying geographical location of the applicants needs to be made a consideration.

 

[Stretcher_Jockey]

And you evidently have no clue as to what my argument is. I realize that geographical location is not factored into the drawing. But based on the overwhelming number of successful applicants since the elk draw began being from East Tennessee I'm saying geographical location of the applicants needs to be made a consideration.

You still haven't given an actual reason as to why West Tennesseans should have a better chance of drawing than East Tennesseans? We all pay in equally on licenses do we not? Simple math says if there are more applicants in one area of the state then likely that area will have more successful applicants.

 

[Stretcher_Jockey]

Spoken like a true millennial.

I'm not the one whining that I should just arbitrarily get a better chance at a highly coveted opportunity simply because of wear I live. You're acting as if you're entitled to a better chance than someone else.

 

[SKFOOTER]

Spoken like a true millennial.

I'm not the one whining that I should just arbitrarily get a better chance at a highly coveted opportunity simply because of wear I live. You're acting as if you're entitled to a better chance than someone else.

But yet you were whining in the Presidents Island buck hunt thread about how they should do away with the preference point system in that draw so as to not penalize the applicants that have just started to apply for that hunt.

 

[SKFOOTER]

Spoken like a true millennial.

I'm not the one whining that I should just arbitrarily get a better chance at a highly coveted opportunity simply because of wear I live. You're acting as if you're entitled to a better chance than someone else.

You're entitled to your opinion as I am. I just don't have to agree with it as you don't with mine.

 

[scn]

And you evidently have no clue as to what my argument is. I realize that geographical location is not factored into the drawing. But based on the overwhelming number of successful applicants since the elk draw began being from East Tennessee I'm saying geographical location of the applicants needs to be made a consideration.

I'm going to use hypothetical numbers since I don't have the real percentages.

Basically, what I hear you saying is that Region 1 should have 25% of the slots even if they only have 10% of the applicants. And, even if Region 4 has 50% of the total applicants that they should only get 25% of the slots.

Pray tell me how it is fair to have geographical location factor into the drawing at all. If they are drawing random TWRA ID numbers with ZERO geographical factor linked to those number, what could be more fair to all of the applicants?