hillbillyfab
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Anyone have any input on the Element brand of scopes? I've got a rifle needing some glass and was told to look at their line of glass. Would like to hear any and all opinions if you have them.
Element Optics
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Interesting new company. I never heard of them so I just did a little research.
It appears they have 3 product lines. The Helix is in the Vortex price range, the Titan and the Nexus are in the Leupold/Night Force price range. I assume someone will do a comparison of those.
Someone else makes their scopes (that's not unusual) but I don't see where it says who that is.
From their videos, they seem to be focused on reticle design. That's not a big deal to me, but to some it is. I'm a little leery when I see scopes focused on air gun or rimfire, but they say they are good for centerfire.
The Element HELIX 4-16×44 FFP at $450 looks interesting. Maybe we will see some comparisons soon?
It appears they have 3 product lines. The Helix is in the Vortex price range, the Titan and the Nexus are in the Leupold/Night Force price range. I assume someone will do a comparison of those.
Someone else makes their scopes (that's not unusual) but I don't see where it says who that is.
From their videos, they seem to be focused on reticle design. That's not a big deal to me, but to some it is. I'm a little leery when I see scopes focused on air gun or rimfire, but they say they are good for centerfire.
The Element HELIX 4-16×44 FFP at $450 looks interesting. Maybe we will see some comparisons soon?
paincave_2000
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The Nexus is made in Japan by Light Optical Works,the other 2 models are made in China
hillbillyfab
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The Helix was recommended to me for a new build that I'm shopping for. I had never seen their name mentioned before either.
hillbillyfab
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Interesting. Thank you.
I would like to see how that HELIX 4-16x44 stacks up against a Midas TAC 4-16x44 because the Midas TAC is now almost $600.
Aside from being Chinese made i love the specs on that Athlon and that the windage is capped but elevation is not. Plus its not terribly heavy. Its almost hard to find a bad review on it. At nearly 6 bills though there are other scopes such as a Veracity i would feel better about buying. Natchez often has sales on the Veracity FFP blems for around $450. I know a couple guys that bought them and the only blem was a dented box.
www.natchezss.com
| Magnification | 4-16 |
| Objective Lens Diameter | 44 mm |
| Reticle | APRS3 FFP IR MIL, Glass Etched non-illuminated |
| Surface Finish | Matte |
| Lens Coating | Wide Band Fully Multicoated |
| Extra Coating | Xtra Protective Coating |
| Tube Material | Aircraft Grade Aluminium |
| Tube Diameter | 30 mm |
| Exit Pupil | 11.1-1.8 mm |
| Eye Relief | 3.7" |
| Field of View @100 yards | 27.7-7 ft |
| Click Value | 0.1 mil |
| Adjustment range per rotation | 10 mil |
| Total Elevation Adjustment | 30 mil |
| Total Windage Adjustment | 15 mil |
| Turret Style | Zero Stop Elevation&Capped Windage |
| Parallax Adjustment | Side Focus – 10 yards to infinity |
| Purging Material | Argon |
| Length | 14.6 " |
| Weight | 23. 8 oz |
Aside from being Chinese made i love the specs on that Athlon and that the windage is capped but elevation is not. Plus its not terribly heavy. Its almost hard to find a bad review on it. At nearly 6 bills though there are other scopes such as a Veracity i would feel better about buying. Natchez often has sales on the Veracity FFP blems for around $450. I know a couple guys that bought them and the only blem was a dented box.
Natchez
www.natchezss.com
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Once you get to the $500-$600 range I would want to compare them to the Leupolds.
Leupold VX-Freedom 6-18x40 Side Focus, 175081 $500
Leupold VX-3HD 4.5-14x40, 180619 $600
Leupold VX-Freedom 6-18x40 Side Focus, 175081 $500
Leupold VX-3HD 4.5-14x40, 180619 $600
Problem is....neither of them Loopies are FFP and the Freedom isnt even HD glass. The price jump is rather large if you want all that in a Loopie or pretty much any other non Chinese made scope. Even the least expensive Sightron SIIIs are gunna be $850 and up.
You are pretty much over a grand for anything with those features unless its made in China.
You are pretty much over a grand for anything with those features unless its made in China.
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Leupold has always been a reliable clear scope, even the low and mid-range scopes. To me there is no reason spending a fortune on scopes or guns if your mainly just hunting whitetail, bear and other game in Tennessee or other similar terrain not requiring specialized long range shooting. Maybe I'm old school but my Winchester Model 70 with a Leupold scope is more than adequate to get the job done. Keep it simple and go with what has a proven track record for decades.
Also Leupolds are made in the USA and that means something to me.
Also Leupolds are made in the USA and that means something to me.
I tend to avoid Chinese made optics but there are literally tons of excellent Japanese made scopes i would put against any Loopie of a similar price. What they offer today aint like the old VXIIIs in build quality but the glass might be better on some. It surely is not on the Freedom line of scopes.
I shoot mostly harder kicking muzzle loaders and there are so many better scopes for my application. I love the weight and eye relief you get from many Loopies but the newer scopes just dont track as well or tolerate the abuse as well. I would have to move upto a VX5HD to get what i want in a Loopie and that is $850-1000 or more. My Razor HD LH cost less than half that much on clearance and optically its just as nice as the VX5HD. Its just as tough or tougher. Other than the nicer turrets it compares extremely well but you wont ever see the VX5HD 2-10x42 on sale for $500.
I shoot mostly harder kicking muzzle loaders and there are so many better scopes for my application. I love the weight and eye relief you get from many Loopies but the newer scopes just dont track as well or tolerate the abuse as well. I would have to move upto a VX5HD to get what i want in a Loopie and that is $850-1000 or more. My Razor HD LH cost less than half that much on clearance and optically its just as nice as the VX5HD. Its just as tough or tougher. Other than the nicer turrets it compares extremely well but you wont ever see the VX5HD 2-10x42 on sale for $500.
