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There are a couple of the scary facts about chronic wasting disease worthy of a horror novel written by Stephen King.

One is that the infectious agent that causes CWD can change over time, modifying itself to infect an animal. So for example, a strain that is found in minks can be transmitted to its relative the ferret. Infection takes longer as the misfolded protein from the mink that causes the disease adapts to the ferret. The more the proteins vary genetically, the greater the chance they can convert to other species.

That was one of the takeaways from a presentation by scientist Debbie McKenzie who gave an online talk in December for the Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. McKenzie is an associate professor at the Department of Biological Sciences at the University of Alberta in Canada where her specialty is prions and protein folding disease.

She related some other scary information, as well. Such as, over time CWD prevalence always increases. So the longer the disease is around the greater the infection rate in host animals like white-tailed deer. The scary thing for Montana is that it sits between Wyoming and Alberta, Canada, two places where CWD has been around for a while and prevalence of CWD has steadily increased.

Another downer for Montana is the fact that its clay soils, found across much of the eastern half of the state, can keep infectious prions closer to the surface where they can be ingested by animals and infected. It's unknown how long infectious prions can last in the environment, but they are "extremely resistant to degradation."


Similarities

So far, researchers have identified four different CWD strains, McKenzie said, but it's very similar to other well-known diseases like scrapie in sheep, mad cow disease in cattle and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans. All of the diseases have similar characteristics, such as causing holes in the brains of those infected.

The incubation period for the diseases varies. While it may take only months for animals to show signs of infection it can take humans 10 years or longer to look or act differently.

What's more, the disease is always fatal, there are no treatments to halt it, and scientists have yet to understand how the infectious prions reproduce, McKenzie said.

"We don't know a lot about other animals' susceptibility to CWD," McKenzie said. "Wolves and other canids are believed to be resistant to prion diseases," but they may help move the infection around via their feces if they feed on an infected animal.

Spreading

Out of the CWD strains already identified, the one that infects elk is relatively new. Montana had its first elk with CWD detected in Carbon County this fall. The apparently healthy-looking cow elk was shot by a hunter who had it tested for CWD. Although no documented case of CWD in humans has been chronicled, hunters are advised not to eat meat from an infected animal.



The Alliance for Public Wildlife estimates that 7,000 to 15,000 CWD-infected animals are consumed annually, a number that may increase 20% a year, according to CIDRAP

CWD has also been detected in mule deer, whitetails and a moose in Montana. McKenzie said that although CWD has also been detected in moose in Norway, the CWD there apparently has a different source than North America. In contrast, the CWD strain that has heavily infected whitetail deer in states like Wisconsin seems to be relatively common.

CWD is spread through bodily fluids from infected animals, such as saliva and urine, as well as from the decaying carcass of an animal that died from CWD. For that reason, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks requires hunters not to haul carcasses of animals they kill from a known CWD infection zone.

More gloom

Unfortunately, resources directed at studying CWD have seen no increase despite the disease's continued spread. Congress has been lobbied for funding but has yet to direct any money to further research, or even to help states pay for their costs related to monitoring.

"Surveillance and testing needs to occur in a timely manner," McKenzie said. "Right now, the resources aren't there."

Currently there are fewer than five labs intensively studying CWD strains, she added, and very few experiments are being performed on deer making it difficult to understand the disease in the deer family.


The barrier keeping the disease from jumping from deer or elk to cattle seems to be pretty strong, McKenzie said, but the ability of the priors to adapt with time concerns her.

"A strain could arise that has the capacity to infect cattle and humans," she said.

To watch the entire presentation by McKenzie, log on to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYcnmc3Xh0.
 
7,000 to 15,000 annually are consumed? If it has been out west for over 50 years, and who knows exactly how long in west TN now, Then shouldn't people be dropping like flies by now? 10 years before effects or symptoms in humans start to show yet only a handful of people have died from CJD over the years?
 
Also, deer and cattle have been around each other since day 1, if it can jump species how has it not jumped to cattle yet? Does it take the prions thousands of years to jump from one to the other?
 
CWD bad. What you going to do????

If there have been no known cases of humans being infected just how do they know that it may take 10 years to show signs in humans?
 
Mike Belt":253n3r26 said:
If there have been no known cases of humans being infected just how do they know that it may take 10 years to show signs in humans?

That's the question that came to my mind as I read that.



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As I read I always notice it's some scientist telling me it's the worst thing ever and there needs to be immediate government and state funding for testing and studying. Kinda sounds a lot like global warming. If it's been around for a while and there is no proof of there claims.as jumping species,herd depletion,end to hunting. Why are some people so excited about it? I would like to be smart enough to know about the money involved.

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Spurhunter":pqbsavjb said:
Mike Belt":pqbsavjb said:
If there have been no known cases of humans being infected just how do they know that it may take 10 years to show signs in humans?

That's the question that came to my mind as I read that.



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This is presumed based on the human version of the prion disease.... that version takes approx 10 years from exposure to show clinical signs.

While CWD has not been proven to jump species, the bovine version (mad cow) is transmitted to humans. Humans may never be affected by CWD, but it is still prudent at this time to exercise caution while handling and consuming deer from the hot zone.

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If there was more than presumed, assumed,or believed. Cwd and it's affects would be alot easier to believe. My question is how are there still deer farms when cwd lives in the ground,saliva.cant be detected till deer die.this would wipe out pen raised deer. There is no undeniable evidence of cwd wiping out a cervid herd. A shot deer with cwd died from the shot not cwd. most deer herds that are depleted from cwd can really be linked to liberal bag limits.

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Digger, CWD does not wipe out a herd, it just lowers natural life expectancy from 15 years to 4 to 6 years, sometimes younger depending on when the deer first contracted it.

In essence, it drastically lowers the average age of the standing herd. But make no mistake, once a deer becomes symptomatic from the brain turning into a sponge full of holes, the deer WILL die because of it. Usually from being predated by coyotes.

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CWD jumping species hasn't happened and may never happen. Right now, we need a cure for deer. Until then, we should do all we can to slow the spread. People are slow to change until it hits them between the eyes. We humans like to live in denial but we have it big time in West TN and it's killing our herd and our mature bucks especially. You who hunt outside the zone, count your blessings. In my opinion, it's time to panic and cut wider and deeper than anyone thinks is necessary to slow this unstoppable disease.
 
fairchaser":179jk5ec said:
CWD jumping species hasn't happened and may never happen. Right now, we need a cure for deer. Until then, we should do all we can to slow the spread. People are slow to change until it hits them between the eyes. We humans like to live in denial but we have it big time in West TN and it's killing our herd and our mature bucks especially. You who hunt outside the zone, count your blessings. In my opinion, it's time to panic and cut wider and deeper than anyone thinks is necessary to slow this unstoppable disease.

Completely agree. This years testing shows the concentration in Fayette and Hardeman. But it's concerning seeing the scattered outliers in Madison, Tipton, Marshall and Benton (in Mississippi). No stretch to see the migration in Shelby up the Wolf River corridor, but some of these other outliers definitely seem to point to other vectors spreading it like predators and vultures, or simple carcass dumping. But the more we can keep it contained, the better.
 
Just think of it like this. We are going back to what you guys call the good old days. Just be happy with what you shoot and enjoy the friendships and memories with loved ones. It's here, that's it. Throw those 1.5 - 3.5 year old bucks in the truck bed and show them off.
 
I have read the presentation and there is one thing they are leaving out ,their research was never published due to too their own admission that they could not duplicate or verify the results they talked about in the presentation . Bottom line they can not prove cross species transmission. This has caused a lot of panic in the public and the only fact is CWD has never transmitted to humans.
 

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