CVA Accura MR

[Gravey]

Looking for opinions on the CVA Accura MR. I've hunted with an TC Encore for quite a while and love it but picked up an Accura MR recently through inheritance and it feels great. Wondering if it's worth figuring out what load it likes and hunting with it this year. Thoughts and/or opinions welcome.

 

[smyrnagc]

I have an Optima and have used it for a several years. I shoot 100 grains of BH209 (70 grains weighed) with the Hornady 300 grain XTP .44 cal pistol bullet with Harvester green crush ribbed sabots. A deadly combo...Shot several nice bucks with it. I know it's not the Accura but this combo should also work good.

 

[RobDooley]

I have two CVA's. The Apex and Accura. They both love BH 209 (110 grains) with a Barnes TEZ

 

[Carlos Viagra]

This morning I carried 2 for the first time ever. It wasn't as cumbersome as I'd expected and I'll probably continue carrying 2 as long as there's herds of hogs around.

 

[Gravey]

I have an Optima and have used it for a several years. I shoot 100 grains of BH209 (70 grains weighed) with the Hornady 300 grain XTP .44 cal pistol bullet with Harvester green crush ribbed sabots. A deadly combo...Shot several nice bucks with it. I know it's not the Accura but this combo should also work good.

I have two CVA's. The Apex and Accura. They both love BH 209 (110 grains) with a Barnes TEZ

In my encore I shoot 100 grains Pyrodex (2 50-grain pellets) pushing a 240-grain XTP .44 cal bullet with a sabot and it's lethal. In a perfect world they'd love the same thing especially since I bought a new pack of them a week or so back.

 

[WanderingNomad]

I have an Accura MR, load 75grains by weight of BH209, 209 magnum primer, 245gr barnes spitfire. Shoots very well for me..

 

[cbhunter]

Absolutely love my Accura MR. I shoot 100 grains of BH and Barnes 240 grain maybe? Heck I can't remember what I ate yesterday

 

[Gravey]

So why BH over pyrodex?

 

[Carlos Viagra]

Because we all want to be like cbhunter...


For me it's much easier to cleanup, and they say it doesn't absorb moisture the way other powders do.
I swapped over to BH ths year as well. You have to buy a different breech plug for BH209 and also use the Magnum primers with it.

I'm using 80 grains BH and the 240xtp saboted rounds as well. (Where I hunt its so thick, I can't shoot past 80 yards at the furthest point, but it's sighted for 100 anyways.)

 

[cbhunter]

So why BH over pyrodex?

Like Carlos mentioned, it's sooo much cleaner and easier to maintain. NO crud ring is really what made me swap

 

[backyardtndeer]

I bought my wife an accura mr, it groups really well with hornady 240 grain American whitetail sabots and 105 grains loose triple 7.

 

[RobDooley]

So why BH over pyrodex?

a lot hotter! very small drop between 50 & 100 yards. Easier clean up too.

 

[CHRIS WILSON]

The Accura MR is a solid rifle. Personally, I like the MR stock configuration over the standard Accura stock. It should serve you well.

As for Blackhorn....when compared to Pyrodex, it's a bit hotter, less corrosive and the fouling is a much finer fouling which makes loading a second shot much easier. When compared to Triple 7, velocities are pretty similar but Blackhorn starts to gain an edge in velocity when the bullet weight starts going up. One of the biggest reasons folks tend to like Blackhorn over Triple 7 is the lack of the dreaded crud ring formation and ease of loading with consecutive shots. Ease of cleaning is subjective. I don't find that Blackhorn cleans up any easier than other BP substitutes. Blackhorn requires solvent cleaners such as Hoppes as where Triple 7 and Pyrodex can be effectively cleaned with soapy water, Windex, etc.....so pick your poison when it comes to cleaning.

 

[vonb]

To me, 777 cleans up easier than any other BP substitute. Yes, it has a crud ring when using a 209 primer. However, I didn't see any benefit to using Blackhorn 209. Blackhorn has sulphur in it which is corrosive and requires solvents to clean it. Water and a little dawn soap is very effective with 777.

 

[TennJeep]

I think that is a poor excuse for a muzzle loader. You should load it up, bring it to me with $5.00 to take it off of your hands. LOL.

 

[GMB54]

BH209 is a nitro based powder. There is no sulphur listed in the SDS. Its far less corrosive than ANY other sub.

 

[Gravey]

So probably a stupid question but on the breech plug what is the open area off the side for?

 

[smyrnagc]

There is a wrench tool that comes with the gun that inserts into this hole where you turn the breech plug all the way down the first time it is inserted. It is supposed to fit the end of the breech plug perfectly to your gun. YOu only have to do it one time.

Just a hint...the end of the breech plug is fairly soft so be careful not to drop it or it will bend.

 

[Gravey]

There is a wrench tool that comes with the gun that inserts into this hole where you turn the breech plug all the way down the first time it is inserted. It is supposed to fit the end of the breech plug perfectly to your gun. YOu only have to do it one time.

Just a hint...the end of the breech plug is fairly soft so be careful not to drop it or it will bend.

Thanks! I pulled the breech plug out by hand initially so shouldn't need the tool but will look for it. They gave me a tackle box full of muzzleloading supplies so I'll see if I see anything that appears to fit it.

 

[vonb]

BH209 is a nitro based powder. There is no sulphur listed in the SDS. Its far less corrosive than ANY other sub.

See https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sh...orn-209-and-saboted-bullet-test-results/page4

"Haag's findings were that Blackhorn 209, while basically nitrocellulose contained inclusions of potassium nitrite and sulphur, which may create potassium sulphate, possibly sulphur trioxide, or dioxide combining with water in the air form sulfuric acid. He concluded that there is potassium nitrite and elemental sulphur embedded in what is basically a nitrocellulose product"

When you shoot Blackhorn 209, you can smell suphur by-product.

 

[Carlos Viagra]

See https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sh...orn-209-and-saboted-bullet-test-results/page4

"Haag's findings were that Blackhorn 209, while basically nitrocellulose contained inclusions of potassium nitrite and sulphur, which may create potassium sulphate, possibly sulphur trioxide, or dioxide combining with water in the air form sulfuric acid. He concluded that there is potassium nitrite and elemental sulphur embedded in what is basically a nitrocellulose product"

When you shoot Blackhorn 209, you can smell suphur by-product.

Fake news.

 

[smyrnagc]

Thanks! I pulled the breech plug out by hand initially so shouldn't need the tool but will look for it. They gave me a tackle box full of muzzleloading supplies so I'll see if I see anything that appears to fit it.

It is "L" shaped

 

[Gravey]

It is "L" shaped

Thanks!

 

[GMB54]

SO who is this Haag guy? The link within your link is dead. Is he a chemist ect or .....?
https://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Blackhorn-209-SDS.pdf

 

[Harold Money jr]

I have 2 of them and they are both extremely accurate. I shoot BH209 at 63gr/weight and .45 300gr XTPs in Harvester sabots. In my guns it doesn't matter if I'm shooting goex, pyrodex, 777 or blackhorn they are all equally accurate. The projectiles doesn't matter as long as the sabot is a Harvester crush rib I don't know why but, the results cannot be more dramatic in my guns. 10" 100yd group vs 1" 100yd group.

 

[GMB54]

Every rifle can be different about what sabot it prefers. The regular Harvester sabots also have a very good track record for fit in most CVAs. Its possible the Crushribs are just a little bit too loose in some.

If you try the standard SMOOTH Harvester sabots, try the one listed as "for upto 300gr bullets". Part# H5045SB