Cover!

[Bayou Buck]

I took this picture while looking for a wounded deer this season. Just to give some of you an idea what a clearcut can look like in 3 years. I'm 6'3 and this pic was taken at eye level.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

Some of ours should be looking like that this upcoming year

 

[BSK]

Yup, great cover. The only thing that beats hardwood regrowth for cover is a young pine plantation.

 

[Jarred525]

I just ordered 1,000 pine seedlings, anyone want to come help me plant them

 

[BSK]

I just ordered 1,000 pine seedlings, anyone want to come help me plant them

NO and HE11 NO!

After planting 5,000 pine seedlings one time during a sleet and ice storm in February I swore I would never do it again!

 

[JCDEERMAN]

Where do you order pine seedlings from? How much were they for 1,000 of them Jarred? I wanted to get some planted in the next year or 2

 

[eastTN270]

Yup, great cover. The only thing that beats hardwood regrowth for cover is a young pine plantation.

Not to highjack, but this is what I am asking about in my post in this forum. I want to do both, clear cut regrowth cover and pine plantation, each one being about 4 acres with a food plot road between them. One side gets hunted by the neighbors property and the other does not. Which one would you want on the side with other hunters?

 

[eastTN270]

Where do you order pine seedlings from? How much were they for 1,000 of them Jarred? I wanted to get some planted in the next year or 2

x2

 

[Jarred525]

This is the order form:

http://www.tn.gov/agriculture/publicati ... atalog.pdf

This is where you see what seedlings are available:

http://www.agriculture.state.tn.us/available.asp

I have mine delivered to the forestry division in my county, saves shipping cost. Also gives me an opportunity to chat with those folks as I always have questions with my growing interest in forestry.

These seedlings are pretty good quality. The best quality ones I ever got were from Weyerhaeuser, but they do not ship anymore. International Paper will not ship either, and I hear they have good quality stuff.

 

[Jarred525]

Here are some Virginia pines from TN Dept of forestry planted 3 years ago.

 

[Jarred525]

I just ordered 1,000 pine seedlings, anyone want to come help me plant them

NO and HE11 NO!

After planting 5,000 pine seedlings one time during a sleet and ice storm in February I swore I would never do it again!

I finally got smart and I hire a couple of teenage boys to help each year I planted 1,000 one year by myself and it almost killed me.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

Thanks Jarred. Dont they have a tool that will plant them for you....looks kind of like a pogo stick?

 

[jmb4wd]

Great looking cover!! I need about 50 acres of that stuff on our farm but my dad and grandfather would kill me!!!!!!

I do have one foodplot that I need to block the open side.

 

[Jarred525]

Thanks Jarred. Dont they have a tool that will plant them for you....looks kind of like a pogo stick?

Yep a dibble bar. I got mine here:

http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/produ ... ibble+Bars

You want the KBC for good ol TN Rockland.

If you want 10 acres or more planted, you can hire folks to do that. Something around $75/acre last I check including the seedlings. I am going to do that when I get a few more areas ready for planting. You can't beat that price.

 

[Jarred525]

Great looking cover!! I need about 50 acres of that stuff on our farm but my dad and grandfather would kill me!!!!!!

I do have one foodplot that I need to block the open side.

I would do a row or 2 of Virginia on the outside and a row or 2 of loblolly on the inside. The Virginia is a slower grower but grows out top to bottom. The loblolly is faster growing so it would give you that early block until the Virginias could catch up. Loblollys thin out at the bottom as the mature.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

That dibble bare just doesnt look fun

BUT thats the kind of stuff I love to do. I am very active, in shape, and would do it myself with a couple other guys help. Though, before we did that, I would study up heavily on it. January - April, all I do is go around our property trying to figure out the next "project" to improve our habitat and land overall. Its in my blood

 

[Jarred525]

That dibble bare just doesnt look fun

BUT thats the kind of stuff I love to do. I am very active, in shape, and would do it myself with a couple other guys help. Though, before we did that, I would study up heavily on it. January - April, all I do is go around our property trying to figure out the next "project" to improve our habitat and land overall. Its in my blood

It would not be so bad except my property is so rocky! I am in the same boat as you. I love these type of projects. Godo break from being in the office all week! And January through the start of turkey season is such a great time to be doing these projects. My list stays long every year

 

[Gravey]

On average what percentage of those trees make it?

 

[Bayou Buck]

Yup, great cover. The only thing that beats hardwood regrowth for cover is a young pine plantation.

Well I have 50 acres of pine being put in next winter after all the prep work is done this upcoming summer. I should have no shortage of cover on my place for the near future.

 

[Jarred525]

On average what percentage of those trees make it?

For me, it has depended a lot on the rainfall of the summer following the planting. In extreme drought conditions, I only had about 10% make it one year. Normal rainfall years I have roughly 70 percent make it.

This is one thing that has really caused me to plant small areas each year instead of biting too much off. I had planted 1500 the year of the drought and almost cried when only 150 made it.

 

[Jarred525]

I should add even though I ordered 1,000, I am only planting about 600 of those. A friend of mine is getting the rest.

 

[Jarred525]

Yup, great cover. The only thing that beats hardwood regrowth for cover is a young pine plantation.

Well I have 50 acres of pine being put in next winter after all the prep work is done this upcoming summer. I should have no shortage of cover on my place for the near future.

And it is a great monetary investment.

 

[BSK]

That dibble bare just doesnt look fun

Less fun than you could ever imagine...

BUT thats the kind of stuff I love to do. I am very active, in shape, and would do it myself with a couple other guys help.

Try it one time (planting thousands of pines) and I promise you will never want to do it again! You will be out looking for a crew of Mexicans to do it for you next time (and those crews are worth every penny).

 

[BSK]

I planted my first loblolly pines in a small ridge-side clear-cut in February of 1999. Now, after 13 growing seasons, those pines are 30-40 feet tall. And it was a poor-soil site.

 

[WMAn]

That dibble bare just doesnt look fun

Less fun than you could ever imagine...

If you want to know what fun is, forget the pines, grab your dibble bar, and follow me to MS. I know a refuge forester, who would really appreciate the help of some fun loving people. You will be planting bottomland hardwoods.

To sign up, you only have to answer one question. "Do you know what buckshot gumbo is?" If the answer is "yes," you have already ended our conversation. If the answer is "no," well then welcome aboard.

Now, let's go make a memory that will last a lifetime!

 

[richmanbarbeque]

My son and I planted 500 in a day and a half. We had at least 80% make it but at first they looked like they didn't. They looked rough but rebounded. Now I have more killed from bucks destroying them, they shred them from top to bottom.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

What is the best kind of pine to plant overall for all-around purposes?

 

[BSK]

That dibble bare just doesnt look fun

Less fun than you could ever imagine...

If you want to know what fun is, forget the pines, grab your dibble bar, and follow me to MS. I know a refuge forester, who would really appreciate the help of some fun loving people. You will be planting bottomland hardwoods.

To sign up, you only have to answer one question. "Do you know what buckshot gumbo is?" If the answer is "yes," you have already ended our conversation. If the answer is "no," well then welcome aboard.

Now, let's go make a memory that will last a lifetime!

WMAn,

I was working on a property in Louisiana, across the river from Natchez, MS. I sank the landowner's ATV in a gumbo swamp. Thankfully the landowner was a construction contractor, because we literally had to us an industrial crane to lift the ATV out of the mud. It could not be dragged out. To clear the mud out of the wheel-wells required a crowbar.

Did I mention I hate gumbo?

 

[WMAn]

That dibble bare just doesnt look fun

Less fun than you could ever imagine...

If you want to know what fun is, forget the pines, grab your dibble bar, and follow me to MS. I know a refuge forester, who would really appreciate the help of some fun loving people. You will be planting bottomland hardwoods.

To sign up, you only have to answer one question. "Do you know what buckshot gumbo is?" If the answer is "yes," you have already ended our conversation. If the answer is "no," well then welcome aboard.

Now, let's go make a memory that will last a lifetime!

WMAn,

I was working on a property in Louisiana, across the river from Natchez, MS. I sank the landowner's ATV in a gumbo swamp. Thankfully the landowner was a construction contractor, because we literally had to us an industrial crane to lift the ATV out of the mud. It could not be dragged out. To clear the mud out of the wheel-wells required a crowbar.

Did I mention I hate gumbo?

LOL! Yeah, gumbo is probably the one soil (if we can even call it soil) type that will make you thankful for all that chert you have!

 

[BSK]

I hear that! Instead of being listed as a soil type, gumbo should be listed as an industrial glue!