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So, there was a thread a bit ago about such things, and as it happens, I tried it. I used to use an 18" stone, and it worked great once I dialed in recipe for oven. Then decided, it'd be better on my propane grill which hits 750* or so, way hotter than oven. Whelp, stone was a touch too large for grill propping door open a bit letting out the heat. Stumbled upon a 17" (at bottom) Lodge cast iron pan, and lookie there-it fits! LOL

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Really want to grab an Ooni 24" oven and see what I can do but that price point is a bit much given current money hemorrhaging trying to finish up this homestead.

I reckon, the point is: where there is a will, there is way. It took me a bit to finalize a pizza recipe, but I suspect I am close!
 
I enjoy pizza, but the wife's recipe hasn't been great lately. Looking forward to learning your recipe and process (if you're open to sharing it). She'll be out of town sooner or later so that might be a good time to try it out. ;)
 
Looks great...Get a cast iron box for hickory chips and when grill is preheated have the smoke rolling to add amazing wood fired flavor.
Wife gets fresh mozzarella in the ball and we slice it. Turns golden on top from the smoke. Then if availble in the spring top with a few sautéed morels. Love homemade pizza.
 
I enjoy pizza, but the wife's recipe hasn't been great lately. Looking forward to learning your recipe and process (if you're open to sharing it). She'll be out of town sooner or later so that might be a good time to try it out. ;)
If this was directed at me-I'd be glad to give you some info. I can likely drop something on here this afternoon.
 
The one thing that most people overlook, and it makes a huge difference, is once you have your pizza put together and ready to go into the often shake oregano on top.

I knew those years of working in a pizza place would pay off. :D
There's a place in Buchannan a 1/4 mile or so off of rt 79 that puts oregano on their pizza's.
 
TL; DR - Scroll to bottom and follow recipe posted (the couple who wrote it is very similar to mine). Buy/make red sauce and bake away.

For @DayTrader (or anyone wanting more info):

My recipe is kinda 50/50 on flours. I was using 00 until moving back to TN, then found I like cake flour here better, along with the AP in recipe. ~2cups apiece. I go for a Chicago/tavern style crust - thin, flexible/chewy but crisper on crust, if that makes sense.

  • The recipe will give you ~2 x 17" thin crusts
  • You can cook after punching down the 2nd rise, or, you can cold proof in fridge overnight (folks seem to like the cold proofed a bit better, I dunno)
  • Yeast, I believe is happiest 105* - 115* ; so water should be warm but not quite hot, and I briefly warm oven to let dough rise in this range
  • I use a cold pan and build it then throw in oven as I am a master of burning myself on hot pans 😄
  • I usually throw ingredients under cheese, sometimes I'll put layer of motz, then ingredients under final parm dusting (I do leave raw mushrooms on top and brush lightly with EVOO)
  • Once dough in pan I usually brush crust with EVOO before loading sauce/toppings; and then when done I shake a few drops of EVOO on top of cheese to help get browning
  • @500* mine takes almost 20mins - pull when happy with color
  • For the sauce, use whatever you normally do-I make a 30min "quick sauce" that has all the flavors I like in there - not very traditional; I adjust to taste
  • And, that I think is most important - if you like something, add more of it, if you don't like something remove it. It takes a few tries usually to dial it in.
  • Finally, the dough is always tricky. Elevation, humidity, temp of house, water source... everything can mess with consistency. Trial and error. Like I said, I am now back to cake flour instead of 00 since my return.

Hope some of this helps.
 

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TL; DR - Scroll to bottom and follow recipe posted (the couple who wrote it is very similar to mine). Buy/make red sauce and bake away.

For @DayTrader (or anyone wanting more info):

My recipe is kinda 50/50 on flours. I was using 00 until moving back to TN, then found I like cake flour here better, along with the AP in recipe. ~2cups apiece. I go for a Chicago/tavern style crust - thin, flexible/chewy but crisper on crust, if that makes sense.

  • The recipe will give you ~2 x 17" thin crusts
  • You can cook after punching down the 2nd rise, or, you can cold proof in fridge overnight (folks seem to like the cold proofed a bit better, I dunno)
  • Yeast, I believe is happiest 105* - 115* ; so water should be warm but not quite hot, and I briefly warm oven to let dough rise in this range
  • I use a cold pan and build it then throw in oven as I am a master of burning myself on hot pans 😄
  • I usually throw ingredients under cheese, sometimes I'll put layer of motz, then ingredients under final parm dusting (I do leave raw mushrooms on top and brush lightly with EVOO)
  • Once dough in pan I usually brush crust with EVOO before loading sauce/toppings; and then when done I shake a few drops of EVOO on top of cheese to help get browning
  • @500* mine takes almost 20mins - pull when happy with color
  • For the sauce, use whatever you normally do-I make a 30min "quick sauce" that has all the flavors I like in there - not very traditional; I adjust to taste
  • And, that I think is most important - if you like something, add more of it, if you don't like something remove it. It takes a few tries usually to dial it in.
  • Finally, the dough is always tricky. Elevation, humidity, temp of house, water source... everything can mess with consistency. Trial and error. Like I said, I am now back to cake flour instead of 00 since my return.

Hope some of this helps.
Thanks!!! I will work on this the next time the wife is visiting her mom.
 
It looks like you grilled the top side first? Then built pizza on the grill? Pretty cool idea if so!
Yup,shape dough (which I'm no good at) and olive oil one side and put straight on the grill at 450-500. About a minute and pull off when marked and crisped a little onto a baking sheet. Oil the raw side now on top and flip. Par cooked side up now. Dress your pie to your liking and stick back on the grill. This time leave it for a few minutes or till it gets the color you're looking for. Quick and painless process actually. Not traditional by any means but it gets the job done and gets in my belly faster. 😂
 
I agree...no bad pizza, only better pizza.
I've perfected a couple of home made ice cream processes/recipes.
Looking forward to doing the same with pizza. And, the wife will be happy that she doesn't have to make it anymore because she's not a pizza fan.
 
TL; DR - Scroll to bottom and follow recipe posted (the couple who wrote it is very similar to mine). Buy/make red sauce and bake away.

For @DayTrader (or anyone wanting more info):

My recipe is kinda 50/50 on flours. I was using 00 until moving back to TN, then found I like cake flour here better, along with the AP in recipe. ~2cups apiece. I go for a Chicago/tavern style crust - thin, flexible/chewy but crisper on crust, if that makes sense.

  • The recipe will give you ~2 x 17" thin crusts
  • You can cook after punching down the 2nd rise, or, you can cold proof in fridge overnight (folks seem to like the cold proofed a bit better, I dunno)
  • Yeast, I believe is happiest 105* - 115* ; so water should be warm but not quite hot, and I briefly warm oven to let dough rise in this range
  • I use a cold pan and build it then throw in oven as I am a master of burning myself on hot pans 😄
  • I usually throw ingredients under cheese, sometimes I'll put layer of motz, then ingredients under final parm dusting (I do leave raw mushrooms on top and brush lightly with EVOO)
  • Once dough in pan I usually brush crust with EVOO before loading sauce/toppings; and then when done I shake a few drops of EVOO on top of cheese to help get browning
  • @500* mine takes almost 20mins - pull when happy with color
  • For the sauce, use whatever you normally do-I make a 30min "quick sauce" that has all the flavors I like in there - not very traditional; I adjust to taste
  • And, that I think is most important - if you like something, add more of it, if you don't like something remove it. It takes a few tries usually to dial it in.
  • Finally, the dough is always tricky. Elevation, humidity, temp of house, water source... everything can mess with consistency. Trial and error. Like I said, I am now back to cake flour instead of 00 since my return.

Hope some of this helps.
When you put the EVOO on the crust prior to putting on ingredients, does that seem to make the ingredients slide off while eating the pizza or does it stay on? I'm asking because one of the 'issues' I have with the wife's homemade pizza is the toppings slide off. While I appreciate her effort (she's a great cook and feeds me well), she hates pizza, except the crust, so she is more than happy that I've taken an interest in making my own.
For the last year or so I have not liked her crust. She changed something.
She's leaving this morning so it's time to try this crust out.
I've not heard of refrigerator proofing so will dig into that a little so I have that as an option.
You know...if I get good and fast at the prep part (hmm, wonder if I can freeze the dough for the second pizza), I could put a grate in the wood burner and try baking a pizza in there. Last year I started washing and piercing potatoes and wrapping them in 3 layers of aluminum foil, then placing them in a small cast iron skillet and placing on top of the coals. I use some serious oven mitts and welding gloves to remove the pan. You have to set the pan on the cook stove. It's gas so it can handle the high heat on the raised cast iron burners. Do NOT open the aluminum foil in the pan or the miscellaneous liquid inside the foil will catch on fire with ZERO warning. Yep, I did that. Freaked me out. So, move the potatoes to a plate before opening the foil.
Will need to ask the wife what ingredients we have/don't have. We are fairly self sufficient and rarely buy groceries, but I'm guessing we don't have cake flour and I know we need pepperoni because it doesn't like being frozen for very long and we had to throw it out.
Thank you for posting the recipe. Hopefully I will report back later in the week.
 
When you put the EVOO on the crust prior to putting on ingredients, does that seem to make the ingredients slide off while eating the pizza or does it stay on?
-I just brush on a light coat on the outer crust (where you hold it), nothing should slide off. I also tend to put most things under the cheese.
I've not heard of refrigerator proofing so will dig into that a little so I have that as an option.
-This is just wrapping it in plastic wrap/in a bag and letting it sit overnight in fridge. Be aware, it will expand even in cold-I wrap with saran, then put in zipped ziplock baggie to protect dough from air.
You know...if I get good and fast at the prep part (hmm, wonder if I can freeze the dough for the second pizza),
-It isn't real fast as it needs ~3hrs to double rise, but it is worth it! Yes, you can freeze dough for awhile if you don't want to use both. I'd wrap as above before freezing.
I know we need pepperoni because it doesn't like being frozen for very long and we had to throw it out.
-Never froze pepperoni... usually it can be left out of fridge when unopened; then I throw in fridge till used up. It should be okay for a good bit in fridge I'd think due to its processing.

Good luck on pizza, hope it works out for you! Please let us know how it went!
 
-I just brush on a light coat on the outer crust (where you hold it), nothing should slide off. I also tend to put most things under the cheese.

-This is just wrapping it in plastic wrap/in a bag and letting it sit overnight in fridge. Be aware, it will expand even in cold-I wrap with saran, then put in zipped ziplock baggie to protect dough from air.

-It isn't real fast as it needs ~3hrs to double rise, but it is worth it! Yes, you can freeze dough for awhile if you don't want to use both. I'd wrap as above before freezing.

-Never froze pepperoni... usually it can be left out of fridge when unopened; then I throw in fridge till used up. It should be okay for a good bit in fridge I'd think due to its processing.

Good luck on pizza, hope it works out for you! Please let us know how it went!
Thank you for the info!
 
made some a while back. im sure i did it wrong.

do you preheat the cast iron and then form the dough in the pan? and do you parbake just a bit before saucing and adding toppings?

Yes to all, sorry for the delayed response! On the deep dish, I like to butter the skillet after after its preheated before dough goes in.
 
So, there was a thread a bit ago about such things, and as it happens, I tried it. I used to use an 18" stone, and it worked great once I dialed in recipe for oven. Then decided, it'd be better on my propane grill which hits 750* or so, way hotter than oven. Whelp, stone was a touch too large for grill propping door open a bit letting out the heat. Stumbled upon a 17" (at bottom) Lodge cast iron pan, and lookie there-it fits!
I typed out the directions from the cook book picture that @TnYeti posted for making the crust in case anyone wants to use the recipe. Yep, 2 years of typing in high school...it was that or take a language. I should have taken the language. Enjoy!

Pizza dough recipe
Ingredients
1 teaspoon active dry yeast
1 ¼ cups warm water (105-115)
1 cup cake flour (not self-rising0
2 ½ to 3 cups all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons salt
Olive oil for the bowl

1. Sprinkle the yeast over the water. Let stand 1 minute, or until the yeast is creamy.
Then stir until the yeast dissolves.

2. In a large bowl, combine the cake flour, 2 ½ cups of the all-purpose flour, and the salt.
Add the yeast mixture and stir until a soft dough forms.
Turn the dough out onto a lightly floured surface and knead, adding more flour, if necessary, until smooth and elastic, about 10 minutes.

3. Lightly coat a large bowl with oil.
Place the dough in the bowl, turning it to oil the top.
Cover with plastic wrap.
Place in a warm, draft-free place and let rise until doubled in bulk, about 1 ½ hours.

4. Flatten the dough with your fist.
Cut the dough into 2 to 4 pieces and shape the pieces into balls.
Dust the tops with flour.

5. Place the balls on a floured surface and cover each with plastic wrap, allowing room for the dough to expand. Let rise 60-90 minutes, or until doubled.

6. Thirty to sixty minutes before baking the pizzas, place a baking stone or unglazed quarry tiles on a rack in the lowest level of the oven. Turn on the oven to the maximum temperature, 500 or 550 degrees F.

7. Shape and bake the pizzas as described in a recipe book we don't have. : )

TnYeti's notes:
My recipe is kinda 50/50 on flours. I was using 00 until moving back to TN, then found I like cake flour here better, along with the AP in recipe. ~2cups apiece. I go for a Chicago/tavern style crust - thin, flexible/chewy but crisper on crust, if that makes sense.
  • The recipe will give you ~2 x 17" thin crusts
  • You can cook after punching down the 2nd rise, or, you can cold proof in fridge overnight (folks seem to like the cold proofed a bit better, I dunno)
  • Yeast, I believe is happiest 105* - 115* ; so water should be warm but not quite hot, and I briefly warm oven to let dough rise in this range
  • I use a cold pan and build it then throw in oven as I am a master of burning myself on hot pans
  • I usually throw ingredients under cheese, sometimes I'll put layer of motz, then ingredients under final parm dusting (I do leave raw mushrooms on top and brush lightly with EVOO)
  • Once dough in pan I usually brush crust with EVOO before loading sauce/toppings; and then when done I shake a few drops of EVOO on top of cheese to help get browning
  • @500* mine takes almost 20mins - pull when happy with color
  • For the sauce, use whatever you normally do-I make a 30min "quick sauce" that has all the flavors I like in there - not very traditional; I adjust to taste
  • And, that I think is most important - if you like something, add more of it, if you don't like something remove it. It takes a few tries usually to dial it in.
  • Finally, the dough is always tricky. Elevation, humidity, temp of house, water source... everything can mess with consistency. Trial and error. Like I said, I am now back to cake flour instead of 00 since my return.
Q&A
When you put the EVOO on the crust prior to putting on ingredients, does that seem to make the ingredients slide off while eating the pizza or does it stay on?
-I just brush on a light coat on the outer crust (where you hold it), nothing should slide off. I also tend to put most things under the cheese.

I've not heard of refrigerator proofing so will dig into that a little so I have that as an option.
-This is just wrapping it in plastic wrap/in a bag and letting it sit overnight in fridge. Be aware, it will expand even in cold-I wrap with saran, then put in zipped ziplock baggie to protect dough from air.

You know...if I get good and fast at the prep part (hmm, wonder if I can freeze the dough for the second pizza),
-It isn't real fast as it needs ~3hrs to double rise, but it is worth it! Yes, you can freeze dough for awhile if you don't want to use both. I'd wrap as above before freezing.
 

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I typed out the directions from the cook book picture that @TnYeti posted for making the crust in case anyone wants to use the recipe. Yep, 2 years of typing in high school...it was that or take a language. I should have taken the language. Enjoy!

Pizza dough recipe
Ingredients
1 teaspoon active dry yeast
1 ¼ cups warm water (105-115)
1 cup cake flour (not self-rising0
2 ½ to 3 cups all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons salt
Olive oil for the bowl

1. Sprinkle the yeast over the water. Let stand 1 minute, or until the yeast is creamy.
Then stir until the yeast dissolves.

2. In a large bowl, combine the cake flour, 2 ½ cups of the all-purpose flour, and the salt.
Add the yeast mixture and stir until a soft dough forms.
Turn the dough out onto a lightly floured surface and knead, adding more flour, if necessary, until smooth and elastic, about 10 minutes.

3. Lightly coat a large bowl with oil.
Place the dough in the bowl, turning it to oil the top.
Cover with plastic wrap.
Place in a warm, draft-free place and let rise until doubled in bulk, about 1 ½ hours.

4. Flatten the dough with your fist.
Cut the dough into 2 to 4 pieces and shape the pieces into balls.
Dust the tops with flour.

5. Place the balls on a floured surface and cover each with plastic wrap, allowing room for the dough to expand. Let rise 60-90 minutes, or until doubled.

6. Thirty to sixty minutes before baking the pizzas, place a baking stone or unglazed quarry tiles on a rack in the lowest level of the oven. Turn on the oven to the maximum temperature, 500 or 550 degrees F.

7. Shape and bake the pizzas as described in a recipe book we don't have. : )

TnYeti's notes:
My recipe is kinda 50/50 on flours. I was using 00 until moving back to TN, then found I like cake flour here better, along with the AP in recipe. ~2cups apiece. I go for a Chicago/tavern style crust - thin, flexible/chewy but crisper on crust, if that makes sense.
  • The recipe will give you ~2 x 17" thin crusts
  • You can cook after punching down the 2nd rise, or, you can cold proof in fridge overnight (folks seem to like the cold proofed a bit better, I dunno)
  • Yeast, I believe is happiest 105* - 115* ; so water should be warm but not quite hot, and I briefly warm oven to let dough rise in this range
  • I use a cold pan and build it then throw in oven as I am a master of burning myself on hot pans
  • I usually throw ingredients under cheese, sometimes I'll put layer of motz, then ingredients under final parm dusting (I do leave raw mushrooms on top and brush lightly with EVOO)
  • Once dough in pan I usually brush crust with EVOO before loading sauce/toppings; and then when done I shake a few drops of EVOO on top of cheese to help get browning
  • @500* mine takes almost 20mins - pull when happy with color
  • For the sauce, use whatever you normally do-I make a 30min "quick sauce" that has all the flavors I like in there - not very traditional; I adjust to taste
  • And, that I think is most important - if you like something, add more of it, if you don't like something remove it. It takes a few tries usually to dial it in.
  • Finally, the dough is always tricky. Elevation, humidity, temp of house, water source... everything can mess with consistency. Trial and error. Like I said, I am now back to cake flour instead of 00 since my return.
Q&A
When you put the EVOO on the crust prior to putting on ingredients, does that seem to make the ingredients slide off while eating the pizza or does it stay on?
-I just brush on a light coat on the outer crust (where you hold it), nothing should slide off. I also tend to put most things under the cheese.

I've not heard of refrigerator proofing so will dig into that a little so I have that as an option.
-This is just wrapping it in plastic wrap/in a bag and letting it sit overnight in fridge. Be aware, it will expand even in cold-I wrap with saran, then put in zipped ziplock baggie to protect dough from air.

You know...if I get good and fast at the prep part (hmm, wonder if I can freeze the dough for the second pizza),
-It isn't real fast as it needs ~3hrs to double rise, but it is worth it! Yes, you can freeze dough for awhile if you don't want to use both. I'd wrap as above before freezing.
Oh wow-didn't realize it wasn't clear in picture. Also-to be clear (LOL); that recipe is real close to mine but not "mine." It is the couple who's book I photo'd. The terrible punchline is, it took me SO long to dial mine in and then I was gifted that book... I was just devastated that theirs was so close to what took me years to dial in. It will certainly be a great starting point for whatever you like in thin crust! 😂
 

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