I got the Federal Vital-Shok for 7mm-08 140g Barnes TSX out of Cheaper than Dirt Ammo online.. fast delivery and great price. They outshot the ballistic tips, and Noslers I had previosly put through my rifle. I got a 1" grouping out of the first 4 shots I put through. IF they perform (as expected) as good as they shoot, dead deer come November.