contendershooter
Well-Known Member
As you all know since BHO's re-election ammo has been scarce, even more so since the mass shootings, but primarily with your .223 (5.56), 308 (7.62x51), 7.62x39 and your typical 9MM, 40S&W, and 45ACP fodder. I have seen a interesting change though...those calibers have all came back, in surprising numbers, with the exception of 9MM and 308. Most 9MM ammo is much more costly than it was and 40S&W and 45ACP is about in line where it was a year and a half ago. But have you all seen the prices of the typical hunting calibers and revolver rounds? Wal-Mart in Ashland City near my house has just got in some Winchester 30-30 standard Super-X, and it's 17.96 a box...whoa...it was 12.96 a box just a year or so ago. Your common 243/270/30-06, etc that used to be right at 16 per box is now 20-21 per box, 25-06, 6MM rem, 7MM-08 and your standard 7MM Rem Mag/300 Win Mag is running near 28-29 for standard ammo and oddball stuff like 260Rem, 7x57, 6.5x55 is 30+ per box. Brush cartridges like 444 marlin, 48.96 per 20 for Remington Core Lokt, 45/70 was 36.96, 35 Remington that used to be barely over 20 per box is now 30 per box; Winchester White Box 44 Mag that used to be 31.96 for 50 is now 44.96 and at Bass-Pro was 51.99 the other day.
All of that brings me to these questions...We all know that DHS did huge ammo buys sucking up those common pistol and rifle calibers above, although they say it's not any more ammo than normal, they just did it all in one big order, most people see it as their way of drying up the market; on the flip side, gun manufacturers make a lot more money from black rifles, high end defense handguns, than from common deer rifles or .22's and being that most gun companies own the ammo manufacturers also, do you think they are purposely limiting the calibers of ammo to drive the sales of black rifles and such?
Joe Biden and his "use a shotgun" speech has a lot of traffic because its Biden and his typical common clumsy speak, but you know what, you can find shotgun shells and slugs by the barrel loads and there has been no price increase on them. Conspiracy maybe?
The other question is have you seen an increase in our woods of using Modern Sporting Rifles (AR's) for hunting deer, along with the increase of using .223 for deer? There are several deer specific loads for that caliber now, and for the .22-250.
There is something going on and I wish our hunting and shooting magazines whom we pay subscription money to would actually pin the company exec's down and get straight answers, as I can't see any justification of your standard Federal/Remington/Winchester 243/270/308/30-06 costing more than 15-17 per box. Premium ammo is much worse.
What say you all fellow TN Deer community
All of that brings me to these questions...We all know that DHS did huge ammo buys sucking up those common pistol and rifle calibers above, although they say it's not any more ammo than normal, they just did it all in one big order, most people see it as their way of drying up the market; on the flip side, gun manufacturers make a lot more money from black rifles, high end defense handguns, than from common deer rifles or .22's and being that most gun companies own the ammo manufacturers also, do you think they are purposely limiting the calibers of ammo to drive the sales of black rifles and such?
Joe Biden and his "use a shotgun" speech has a lot of traffic because its Biden and his typical common clumsy speak, but you know what, you can find shotgun shells and slugs by the barrel loads and there has been no price increase on them. Conspiracy maybe?
The other question is have you seen an increase in our woods of using Modern Sporting Rifles (AR's) for hunting deer, along with the increase of using .223 for deer? There are several deer specific loads for that caliber now, and for the .22-250.
There is something going on and I wish our hunting and shooting magazines whom we pay subscription money to would actually pin the company exec's down and get straight answers, as I can't see any justification of your standard Federal/Remington/Winchester 243/270/308/30-06 costing more than 15-17 per box. Premium ammo is much worse.
What say you all fellow TN Deer community